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ParaB 06-29-2011 08:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by timej31 (Post 303999)
How many folks in this community have experience flying the Emil during WWII? I read a handful of people throwing out the "in the real world" combo of words I am just curious what qualifies their words to be weighted more than say the devs.
Thanks for your time and we eagerly await your reply.

Basically any publication that's ever been written about the 109 mentions its service ceiling.

What we see in CoD is simply not correct.

Insuber 06-29-2011 09:05 PM

And basically no publication mentions 8000 m as the ceiling of 109's or Spitfires.

hiro 06-30-2011 06:51 AM

the ceiling (and the bar) goes up the closer we get to the late war scenarios. :cool:

esmiol 06-30-2011 07:34 AM

with the FMB the higher you can config is 10.000meters.

but there are not a invisible wall on the floor :)

it is just that no plan in the game are able to fly so high. :)

senseispcc 06-30-2011 10:08 AM

I try a lot of times and with the Spitfire any type never reached above 28000 ft.
A bug or the creators of the game suppose you have an old plane with less power left in the engine!
:(

esmiol 06-30-2011 12:24 PM

even with low fuel mix at high altitude?

droz 06-30-2011 03:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Danelov (Post 303939)
In real world, Bf 109Es were spotted at 11000m, combats over Dover were reported with 8500-9000m. Recce Ju 86s still fly a lot more higher. Of course, a small wrong or violent maneuver at this altitude and the stall is assured.

ummmm...sources. I find it hard to believe at all that spitfires and hurricanes would be that high, seeing as they were not supercharged that early in the war, and they still used carburetors in the engines and not fuel injected. Try getting any aircraft, old or new, that does not have a supercharger in it above 14,000 FEET and see what happens to it, in real life.

Most engagements I remember hearding about were between 8000 to 12000 FFET, not meters. Yes, the service cieling of the 109 is very high, but that's the max service cieling the 109 ever witnessed, not just necessarily the E (though it's service cieling was much higher than the spit and hurricane, iirc).

JG53Frankyboy 06-30-2011 03:45 PM

they WERE supercharged.
All combat planes in game have supercharged engines. This is not WWI .......

And sure, flightbehaviour such heights were different than in thicker air...you had to be gentle on the stick, otherwise you get very fast a stall, indicated airspeeds so up high were low, dangerous close to minimum manouver speeds :D

Lixma 06-30-2011 03:57 PM

Well, I've been trying to break the 8k barrier using the FMB but even setting the starting altitude at 9000m it nevertheless spawns the player's aircraft at or just under 8000m.

Mmmmmm.....

ATAG_Doc 06-30-2011 06:37 PM

It may seem trivial but what he wants is a height advantage which is Boelcke 1st rule and I agree with him.

I do wish the FM of each of these would be closer to real life for a particular plane you fly. We have a huge 1940 map (which by the way is required due to the large size egos IL-2 players have) and he wants to be able to get up a couple of thousand meters higher which shouldn't be too hard to accomplish.

But remember this isn't finished yet.


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