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Sternjaeger 06-15-2011 01:21 PM

aaaah so much drama for a low pass ;0)

Zoom2136 06-15-2011 01:27 PM

They are bold pilots AND they are old pilots

BUT

They are NO old bold pilots.

;)

Redroach 06-15-2011 01:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zoom2136 (Post 297699)
They are bold pilots AND they are old pilots

BUT

They are NO old bold pilots.

;)

Talk about spoiling an old saying :D

Viper2000 06-15-2011 02:23 PM

It's all fun & games until somebody gets killed.

There are quite a few pilots who are both old & bold - they merely represent a statistical minority. For the same reason, there are quite a lot of people who smoke and don't get lung cancer; increased risk is not the same is certainty.

However, straight & level flight at very low level is actually pretty safe provided that you're higher than the height of your landing gear because you can get an idea of the picture from the cockpit whilst you're still safely on the ground.

In this case, the first aeroplane flies by at roughly gear height - compare with the picture on its Wikipedia page.

The foolish part of this video is how close he's decided to take the aeroplane to the spectators, rather than the height itself. People are unpredictable, the pilot has no real idea what his downwash and jet blast are doing, and of course showing off for the camera is tantamount to testifying for the prosecution. Given that everybody and his dog has a cameraphone these days, showing off within sight of people equates to showing off for the camera, so even if he didn't know that people would be filming, he should have guessed...

In the absence of "innocent" bystanders, it gets "interesting" when people start flying lower than gear height, at high alpha, or with bank on, because there is no real scope for safe rehearsal.

louisv 06-15-2011 02:44 PM

Totally fake, the plane comes back on itself in a second, come on people...:-P

Letum 06-15-2011 03:07 PM

Bravo!
Good on him.

Sternjaeger 06-15-2011 03:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by louisv (Post 297730)
Totally fake, the plane comes back on itself in a second, come on people...:-P

..you probably never heard of ground effect... it's real baby...

Sternjaeger 06-15-2011 03:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Viper2000 (Post 297720)
It's all fun & games until somebody gets killed.

There are quite a few pilots who are both old & bold - they merely represent a statistical minority. For the same reason, there are quite a lot of people who smoke and don't get lung cancer; increased risk is not the same is certainty.

However, straight & level flight at very low level is actually pretty safe provided that you're higher than the height of your landing gear because you can get an idea of the picture from the cockpit whilst you're still safely on the ground.

In this case, the first aeroplane flies by at roughly gear height - compare with the picture on its Wikipedia page.

The foolish part of this video is how close he's decided to take the aeroplane to the spectators, rather than the height itself. People are unpredictable, the pilot has no real idea what his downwash and jet blast are doing, and of course showing off for the camera is tantamount to testifying for the prosecution. Given that everybody and his dog has a cameraphone these days, showing off within sight of people equates to showing off for the camera, so even if he didn't know that people would be filming, he should have guessed...

In the absence of "innocent" bystanders, it gets "interesting" when people start flying lower than gear height, at high alpha, or with bank on, because there is no real scope for safe rehearsal.

come on, so much rhetoric for an innocent joke... if you guys ever served in the Army/Air Force/Navy you should know that this happens constantly, the only difference, as you said, it's that nowadays it's more likely it's gonna get videod/pictured etc.. Never seen the French Army helos in Chad or the Mirages flying low?

He was floating on pure ground effect, a skilled pilot can do that (and this one is sitting on a huge pair of balls if you ask me..) and yes, I would have avoided to fly that close to people, but it's normally them who ask the pilots two be buzzed, not viceversa..

As you said it's all fun til someone loses an eye, then it's hilarious ;)

Fjordmonkey 06-15-2011 04:01 PM

I've seen some pretty wild things during my time with 331/334 sqn RNoAF, but that's utterly insane, ground-effect or not.

BigPickle 06-15-2011 05:03 PM

Dumb, real dumb hope he gets kicked out in shame!


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