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Osprey 06-04-2011 09:00 AM

This is game physics, the physX stuff, so the event wasn't specifically modelled but the wheel movement was so it reacts. You won't see the same event like this twice, similar, but not the same.

Sternjaeger 06-04-2011 12:07 PM

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Originally Posted by zipper (Post 293252)
There were very few rag wing Hurricanes left at the start of BoB. The metal wings were a vast improvement, performance wise, on the rag wings and only took a little over 3 hours to convert to.

As far as a fire goes, it's (just) my opinion but I don't think a fabric wingtip or aileron at flying speed would catch fire without a good fire already going in the wing, assuming it used butyrate. (I'm a mechanic/pilot who's worked extensively with fabric aircraft so I'm ... an expert - lol) And as far as aluminum goes, it would likely be an unusual situation (in this context) where an aluminum alloy catches fire.

Nowadays it's all about Dacron, but the good ol' linen caught fire like nothing,especially if hit by the fierce German incendiary/tracer rounds,think of the poor Wellingtons,burning down to their geodetic framework whilst airborne. In order for aluminium to catch fire you'd need at least a 20mm hit with a HE/I round, not impossible but still..

zipper 06-06-2011 02:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Sternjaeger (Post 293333)
Nowadays it's all about Dacron, but the good ol' linen caught fire like nothing,especially if hit by the fierce German incendiary/tracer rounds,think of the poor Wellingtons,burning down to their geodetic framework whilst airborne. In order for aluminium to catch fire you'd need at least a 20mm hit with a HE/I round, not impossible but still..

I was actually thinking cotton/butyrate. Cotton/nitrate was practically explosive but SHOULD have been off the shelf for military aircraft before WW2, but maybe not in some cases as it is a much better adhesive - why it is still available today. One of the planes I take care of (a C120) has 34 year old linen/butyrate - still looks and tests like new (it's kept in a climate controlled hangar with a jet ...).

Romanator21 06-06-2011 04:45 AM

I heard that aluminum skin burned readily if there was a fair amount of magnesium in the alloy.

In any case, I take it that those fires don't happen often - mostly just the usual fuel tank stuff?

Romanator21 06-06-2011 11:58 PM

Check out this B-24 on fire. As far as I know, there are no fuel tanks in the fuselage. Other things can burn:

http://www.footnote.com/image/#29021348

LoBiSoMeM 06-07-2011 01:25 AM

Yes, planes can burn.

After made clear this subject, last week I was shooted in my Spitfire left wing, just few rounds and some damage decals, nothing big. When I drop gear, the left tire was flat...

Amazing!

badfinger 06-07-2011 01:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Romanator21 (Post 294375)
Check out this B-24 on fire. As far as I know, there are no fuel tanks in the fuselage. Other things can burn:

http://www.footnote.com/image/#29021348

There was a fuel tank in the fuselage. It was between the wing roots and above the bomb bay. In the picture, that tank is burning, with flames exiting the top of the fuselage and the waist gunner positions.

Also, notice the crew member sitting at the emergency exit above the cockpit! Wow.

binky9

lancerr 06-07-2011 04:30 PM

OK - that's wierd you saw the spinning wheel
 
Because I specifically noticed that the wheels were not spinning on take-off and thought that it was quite a shame that it wasn't modelled that way.

I'll triple check tonight, but I'm almost positive.

Pyrres 06-08-2011 10:49 AM

They do spin, so if your wheels dont you have a problem at your end.

JimmyBlonde 06-08-2011 11:26 AM

+1 to this thread.


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