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Redroach 05-26-2011 10:00 AM

Yeah, I've gotten rid of my parachute because of this. Every time I eject, I fall down, bounce a few times and then, I'm up on my legs again, completely unhurt!

Ground too soft? Come on! :rolleyes:

I guess CoD, despite its problems, is in a quite awkward situation: Now, everybody thinks he is the most accomplished test pilot and can figure out very subtle issues in 5 minutes, before heading to the forums and presenting his "results". Imo, this gets more and more distracting with respect to the real issues CoD has...
For an additional example, see the 'pink guys' further down this forum :twisted:

pupaxx 05-26-2011 10:22 AM

The ground is too soft?...absolutely YES!
I would like to post a video to support the thread..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9XuMy...layer_embedded
I was eyewitness at this event.
This is what happens in RL. I think all sims I played (Il-2 included) are to much permissive.
Cheers

Lord-Dante 05-26-2011 10:24 AM

ouch !!! dont try this at home!!!

Sauf 05-26-2011 10:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pupaxx (Post 289156)
The ground is too soft?...absolutely YES!
I would like to post a video to support the thread..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9XuMy...layer_embedded
I was eyewitness at this event.
This is what happens in RL. I think all sims I played (Il-2 included) are too permissimve.
Cheers

Looks to me that he hits a small incline in that vid, pilot error, most runways iirc are flat :rolleyes:

Just my two cents, S`

jcenzano 05-26-2011 01:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sauf (Post 289160)
Looks to me that he hits a small incline in that vid, pilot error, most runways iirc are flat :rolleyes:

Just my two cents, S`

they are supposed to be flat, but if you bounce like this first thing you have to do is to go full power to try to cushion the "second" landing or to go around if you can.

i don´t know whats the reaction time for that particular engine, but at least you have to try to do something. if you leave your power back, you know that the second landing is going to be nasty.

And by the way, I think that COD landings are fine. Landing an airplane (no crosswind/flat runway) IS easier than most people think.

Redroach 05-26-2011 01:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pupaxx (Post 289156)

LoL, it's that guy's own fault if he tries to land on a jumping ramp...now imagine what would've happened on 'hard' ground - definately more than just a broken wheel (and maybe a ripped-up shock absorber or two ) :rolleyes:

JG52Krupi 05-26-2011 02:03 PM

He's very lucky that the prop didn't hit the ground otherwise the engine would have been screwed.

Sternjaeger II 05-26-2011 02:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jcenzano (Post 289246)
they are supposed to be flat, but if you bounce like this first thing you have to do is to go full power to try to cushion the "second" landing or to go around if you can.

i don´t know whats the reaction time for that particular engine, but at least you have to try to do something. if you leave your power back, you know that the second landing is going to be nasty.

And by the way, I think that COD landings are fine. Landing an airplane (no crosswind/flat runway) IS easier than most people think.

easy guys...

The pilot was gonna go land on the hard tarmac runway, but he touched down before it, and that little ramp shot him back up in the air.. at that point there was nothing he could do: if you give full power as you suggest it's very likely the plane will spin out of control for the massive torque, since the Merlin has some 1650HP on a huge four bladed prop.

He was lucky to come out of it with such minor damage actually (although it looks like he clipped the ground with the prop on the last bit..), but this video also shows how things do bend in real life, not just break as it happens now (or at least in IL-2 1946!).

Redroach 05-26-2011 02:11 PM

yeah, that was a quite close call. And besides the engine, gears etc, the propeller parts zipping around aren't really the healthiest thing for the onlookers.

JG52Krupi 05-26-2011 02:13 PM

That is one thing that rof still reigns supreme on with the bending/yield effect


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