Haha, no one remembers the shitstorm in the Ganjin forums (admittedly most people were still playing IL-2 at the time, owing to WoP being pretty, but, erm, not much more) when they revealed that half the features they promised weren't coming to WoP - but were going to make their way into the sequel.

I much rather the fact that CoD is, and will be, fully supported and will be fixed up to what everyone expects from it. Hell, I reckon that if we were all a bit more organised, and created specific threads in the right forum sections with suggestions, and not let every one of them fall into a trolling frenzy, we might actually get to shape this sim exactly how we would like it - but that does require patience and an understanding that things won't get fixed within a few days/hours, or even necessarily in the next patch - just because someone has just spotted it and considers that fault game breaking.

I totally agree on a merge of WOP and COD, which WOP's graphics and everything else from COD.

WoP isn't even close to CoD when we compare the amount of ground objects rendered. It's silly to even compare the two. WoP is like dressing up a pig, it might look "better" to some but underneath it's still a pig.

"WoP graphics are brilliant", but WoP planes look like crap, also the cockpits, also the ground units (what ground units?), also the water, also the effects, alos the fixed damage model visuals...

Oh, but AA is working right and the terrain with fixed shadows look OK! Amazing! "Brilliant"!

Really a benchmark for flight sims graphics... I'm far away of be a fanboy of Clod, need a lot of hard work to be a "final product", but all this crap about "WoP brilliant graphics" is poor...

The cockpits in Clod are great looking and so is the water, but lets face it the terrain is cartoonish. Pastel colors for the fields? WOP stomps Clod in the terrain department.

The fact is WOP has had about 4 updates in the last month or so and is still more fun to fly. The tracers in WOP are perfect whether you think their realistic or not. They just rock. The gun sounds are way better as well.

I wanted to love this sim, but I'm not a hardcore purist like many in this forum. I don't post much, but I spend a lot of time here looking for the next big fix. The beta patches just made my experience worse.

I'm sure in 6 months or so this will be the place to be, right now this game is a heaping mess.

Bash away, don't really care.

Hey doc couldn't agree with you more but why would you bother reading it then and why would I ?:confused:

Is a nice entertainment, does not ? :grin:

well im glad i dont read them anymore :)

Oh please...dont cry about your dissapointments of Clod.
This thread is not for that.
I'm sure your darling will one day grow into a lovely swan, & your love and patience will be rewarded.
What Im saying is that there parts of both WOP and CLOD that bought together, would give a well needed addition to the Simming world.
(Most of you hardcore CloDers have actually admitted that already in your response).

Never mind being able to count the nostral hairs of the panzer commander.
Give me a game that runs well, looks good, and gives a believible scrap, & without having to buy a new rig.

Never mind being able to count the nostral hairs of the panzer commander.

now that is funny :)