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Les 03-16-2011 09:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Biggs (Post 235016)
flat-out biased poll...

why was this even posted?

EDIT.. ROFL nice 'edit' OP... facepalm

I stated clearly from the outset the poll is deliberately biased, editing it to clarify why it was posted as some people didn't seem to be getting it.

Do I think this poll will be noticed and make a difference as to what 1C/UBI/Maddox do? Not really. Does that mean I shouldn't have tried? No, I don't think so. At least the numbers will be here for all to see, if people bother to contribute.

So, flame away, ignore it, whatever, there's an issue and I was trying to do something about it, by giving the potential customers of this product a way to show, in numbers, that they want a choice as to how they use it.

I don't know the ins and outs of Steam integration or whether the solution I suggested is possible, that's not the point. Where there's a will there's a way, of some kind or another.

Anyway, this is the last response I want to make about the subject. I've stated my position here and elsewhere. I'm not interested in arguing about it, the poll's here, people can make of it what they will.

TheGrunch 03-16-2011 09:59 PM

...but by creating a biased poll you have proved nothing because the people who don't want Steam to be optional won't vote and there's no way for anyone to estimate the numbers of these people as a proportion of the people who'd vote on the forum without messing about. If you'd just added another option it would actually show something.

Falke 03-16-2011 10:51 PM

Not a fan of anything intrusive, and I think Steam is, so yes, I think it should be optional. (Actually I don't even think it should nbe a choice)

Do I think it will be? No. To many people now a days are used to "intrusive" and don't really know what having a choice is, so they dismiss the idea and go with the flow. Call it collectivism or whatever. They've been so domesticated that they just don't know any better.

Revvin 03-16-2011 11:00 PM

You forgot a option to vote "I'm scared because a friends uncles sisters goldfish told me he once installed Steam and it blew his house up and ate his first born and a bloke down the pub said Steam stole all the internets once and wouldn't give them back so thats why I sit in a dark room with tin foil wrapped around my head"

Skoshi Tiger 03-16-2011 11:21 PM

By making it optional it would be a win-win situation for both sides. The steam camp can enjoy the all the benifits of using steam and non-steam users don't have to worry about any of the other issues raised.

If other games are functioning successfully in both steam and non-steam modes why is there such a big push to assimulate everyone into the collective? ;)


Edit- How about an poll option - I don't mind steam but I would not be able to use the software purchaced in the manner that I wish without viloating the terms of the agreement?

Cheers!

Biggs 03-16-2011 11:36 PM

this inst a poll at all... this is a poor attempt at a 'petition' of sorts...

but if it lets the angry people vent some steam.... *snicker*... then so be it.

Vyper 03-16-2011 11:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ElAurens (Post 235021)
ArmA II's own browser works just fine for both Steam and non-Steam users.

Cliffs of Dover would be better with a setup like that.

Quoted for truth.

Tacoma74 03-17-2011 12:56 AM

The only explanation for thinking Steam is so intrusive is simple: Paranoia

Kikuchiyo 03-17-2011 01:06 AM

This thread is really odd for the simple fact that there is already a poll that has shown how important the STEAM issue is to most users. What's more is the loss of a couple of hundred "old timers" versus the number of newcomers they will get purchasing it through STEAM and like the STEAM MP service will moot this issue.

Also biased polls are for poloticians with a stupid agenda, or their pundits.

Heliocon 03-17-2011 01:16 AM

sorry - got to say it! Stupid thread.

And no it should not be optional, that will make it easier to pirate.


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