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FOZ_1983 10-26-2009 02:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Panzergranate (Post 114193)
So far I've managed to just burn out the negines, even from dive starts, just trying to push past 260 MPH.

In IL-2 FB the Bf-210, which uses the same DB-605 engines, flies as it should do, according to historical documentation.

The FB Bf-210 optional version with the 50mm. L60 FlaK gun in the belly out performs the BOP Bf-110 C4, which isn't quite what it should do.

THATS IL2:FB!!!! THATS A BF-210!!!!


Ok....

the 110c, as depicted in BIRDS OF PREY on the XBOX 360 clearly performs differently to how it should it real life, we have established that mate. Its really late, i have a bad back, im tired, but i'll do these speed tests, but i need the historical data for the 110c!!! so i can compare, not some completely different plane from a completely different game hahaha!!!

if need be just give me a link and i'll do everything myself, just PLEASE dont give me info on other planes from other games that wont help me in any way shape or form :D lol.

cheers chief, we will no doubt catch up online tomorrow and compare what we've come up with since you enjoy flying this crate :)

Oddly enough i have noticed when flying online with someone (tudorp) doing formation flying, they took the P51 nad i took the hurricane. In a climb the P51 pulled away at first, but after about 30 seconds the hurricane shot past the P51 and got to 30000ft long before it :P

FOZ_1983 10-26-2009 02:07 AM

the DB-605 was on the 110G

This game is the 110C isnt it? so the engine is completely different

Panzergranate 10-26-2009 02:10 AM

It was also fitted to the Japanese "Judy" dive bomber (50 MPH faster than the F2A Buffalo and F4F Wildcat) and the Kawasaki Ki-61 "Tony" fighter.

In BSM the Judy is slower than the F4F and in BSP the fault is corrected to make it faster, as it should be.

I'll have to dig around in some of the books here.

fuzzychickens 10-26-2009 03:04 AM

Given that the flight model was ported from IL2, the number of mistakes makes me think they simply decided they must make a few planes "suck" more.

Seriously, way too many mess-ups for the small number of planes in the game.

zg26 10-26-2009 04:30 AM

I've never heard that the 110 had a legendary rate of climb. I would've thought it would be better off diving as an escape tactic (given that its quite a heavy bird).
Would be fun to employ the real life tactic (employed in Battle of Britain) of circling round and round covering each others tail (if you had enough 110's in a multiplayer game).
I think the biggest disgrace with the 110 in this game is the lack of weapon load-outs (as compared to... hmmm maybe the Il2).
Those cannons don't seem quite as punchy as they should be either.

FOZ_1983 10-26-2009 11:32 AM

to answer zg26 -

NATURALLY!!!

Its a russian gam by russian developers, of course they will big up their own crap planes and make the rest look poor. Its what they do best :)

Russians have always been sneaky and tried cutting corners :P

Ancient Seraph 10-26-2009 12:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FOZ_1983 (Post 114334)
to answer zg26 -

NATURALLY!!!

Its a russian gam by russian developers, of course they will big up their own crap planes and make the rest look poor. Its what they do best :)

Russians have always been sneaky and tried cutting corners :P

You're just pissed because the Hurri isn't what you wanted it to be :P.

FOZ_1983 10-26-2009 12:34 PM

very wrong!

its better than i thought it would be ;) you'll bear witness to that haha. It just doesnt sound right :P

In all seriousness though most of the russian planes do seem good in comparisson to the others. You can't deny it lol

Ancient Seraph 10-26-2009 12:37 PM

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Originally Posted by FOZ_1983 (Post 114373)
very wrong!

its better than i thought it would be ;) you'll bear witness to that haha. It just doesnt sound right :P

In all seriousness though most of the russian planes do seem good in comparisson to the others. You can't deny it lol

Most planes being the La's? In another thread someone quoted a book where the writer seemed to agree with the La's being superb.
The sad truth is though that quite some models seem to be off, in a negative sense. I don't think they overpowered the Russian planes, although they certainly didn't nerf them.

FOZ_1983 10-26-2009 12:55 PM

no not the LA series at all. I dont worry about them to much as only 1 or 2 players may take it into a fight. The 3 that bug me the most are the obvious one -

P51 (obvious reasons)
190 (obvious reasons)
ju87 - Far to much armour!! these cans should be fairly easy to shoot down and only take a few rounds, but in here they are so hard to take down they can stay airbourne for an endless amount of time and just keep getting shot at.


No denying the LA is a good plane to fly though, i was hugely impressed with it when i took it up for trials :D


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