Oh my...
Ah talk to the flight sim god forum.


I would like to know if the Il-2 saga is over with the Il-2 1946 or if there will be more updates and add-ons.
There is still some things I miss,like North Africa theater,the invasion of France and Poland campaign,flyable french planes and italian bombers.

The IL2 saga is over with 1946. It was said a lot of times : the last official update we may get is the 4.09m version of the game (there is yet an official beta).

SOW website anyone?

You offering or asking? :)

I trust you mean: "figuratively kill me" - not "literally kill me"!

Otherwise what sort of rating would this game have?

:-P:-P:-P

I'll bet that if you ask every day (or maybe twice a day) Oleg & crew will fulfill your request... ;0

Thanks Proton Good advice,



SOW website Anyone

If Ubisoft are the (Western) publishers my guess is they will announce the site first :grin:
If they are not, then they won't. :grin:

Proton is 100% right, one of these days they will announce it...
But I do notice a lot of silence on this site these days. Three months to go before Oleg announces Specs for the game... May wasn't it with a September release?
Well we still can hold out for a 2010 release... Just in time for the soccer world cup

Ubisoft are not the western publishers, and yes 2010 at the earliest.

Ubi already announced both the game release, and the web site...they could repeat this if they want, I won't mind:-P

so... still no official news about anything? :-(

New update is coming soon, probably next week.

Thats not good news, any new updates should be coming on the dedicated SOW website.

The website would be good news, but any updates will be welcome, thanks Nike-it.

In my imagination, Oleg looks like a beautifull, fantastic and sexy woman,impossible to approach,impossible to get,but with expectations one can only dream of.One day i'll get her, so i am patient to get my ultimate satisfaction....lol....just joking, i give him all the time ,support and credit he and his team needs

Ok...but be a gentleman:-P

..Oh to Dream our Dreamy little Dreams....
 

Tigertooo,
You analogy can transpire, evolve, and dump you along several paths:

1. Once you get close enough to her you realize that the experience from afar degrades exponentially the closer you get...

2. You were happier with the dream of expectation and it was only most brutally and unforgivingly dashed when the sad reality approched

3. Oh excuse me miss I thought you were someone that I might have known before, sorry...goodbye...

4. Oh I am mistaken but my name is " Mr Potential Game Buyer" would you like to Demo with me for a bit?

5. That Demo was a disappointment, I must introduce you to my good friend Mr Dustbin, Mr Dustbin meet Ms Unfulfilled Promise...(you run away quickly)....tata....

6. Ahhh the Demo was quite nice, what I was looking for AND MORE....

7. Ok... made it to the "General Mercantile Store" let's see if there ie enough copper amongst the lint in my trouser pocket that will enable me to step away with this item in hand.

8.(i) If the answere to #6 is NO...stop here and come back later. (ii) If the answere is yes than read on with #9.

9. Gheeze this short trip home is much longer than usual, I really will skip the Ploughmans tonight as I have some pressing tasks at hand that demand my immediate and strict attention. I do hope my PC is ready for some exercise when I arrive.

10. Part II of this Saga available if the market demand is sufficient

Peace

Oh boy...here we go :-?

Lets hope for Friday. :)

Maybe something in-game perhaps?
We've become quite familiar with the blue screen WiP objects for some years now. Something else would be a welcome change. ;)

I'm not holding my breath.....

Amen to that brother

+1

Rise of flight is soon to be released, but I can remember those torque demonstration's, must have been two years ago at least

Rise of Flight just posted another update on their developers blog today...

And is some video isn't it. Superb.

will we get for the spitfire a sliding sun screen as there was in the original spits? And retractable and focusable landing lights (they could obviously change the distance of the point both beams met in the centre line)?

Identification lights in morse and steady mode? And gunsight light dimmer?

A modelization of changed feet position to take high g better in the spitfire? (in 109 they could change seat inclination perhaps?)

Nike-it
 

I think Nike-it's avatar is trying to drop a hint:grin:

yeah but what year?

Do you guys remember how fun fridays was in 2002 - 2003?
With news and updates allmost every second friday?
And free patches including a bunch of new planes every now and then?
No other game developer I know of has had such nice treatment of its customers.

Skarphol

I was thinking that same thing, actually.

Those were exciting times. I know that many of us here were thinking that things would be the same here once this forum opened up, but Oleg has learned from experience on this. Many harcore simmers and WW2 aviation gurus were really dishing out a lot of grief. Oleg is just going to wait until things are mostly finished to show us what he's got. I wish it weren't so, but it is. Let's face it, Oleg and team are working hard and don't need to hear that the rivets on the Spitfire aren't exact, not in the Alpha stage, and that's exactly what happened before.

I think what you say here has alot of truth to it...I think that the mod community also added to his disapointment. So many names that he was familar with over the years. He look's at them now, thinking that they are a better cook than him.

Better cook? Hardly. The modders are modding his work with absolutely no restraints on time, money, or peoples average computers of a few years ago. When SOW is released it will make the modders work on IL-2 look prehistoric. Soon after SOW is release the modders will be given even better tools to once again improve on his work.

Don't get me wrong I respect alot of the work done by the modders. BUT It does worry me that SOW will lose a few sales initially because of the work done by the modders. Our hobby can't afford any lose of sales. If we lose another developer we will have nothing to look forward to other than mods made on a prehistoric game engine.

I can't see anyone who's so into their WWII combat flight sim's, that they would goto the trouble of downloading and installing the mods, not wanting to go out and buy SOW.

Of course there will be people who's computers won't handle SOW, (Just as my PC at the time could'nt handle IL2 when it first came out) but eventually they will get a rig that will be able to use it and they will be one of the on going sales later on that keep the income stream flowing. I recon that even people who are openly bagging Oleg and Co at the moment, will be going out and buying the sim in secret and then turning up on the forum under a different name. (Hmm! sound like a good poll to me?)

I know it hasn't worked in the past, but, hopefully Oleg will come across a balanced copy protection scheme that will make pirating the game too much trouble and purchacing the game the easy option (without being to much of a imposition on us honest folk). And if as oleg says, modding and map making tools are made available then it might be more benifical for the moders to work with the system than outside it?

Maybe with a long term plan where updates and expansion packs are released over the life of the sim there is something he can do so people need a valid copy of the sim to keep up to date? It will be interesting to see how things turn out

When SOW is released I will stop playing IL2/1946.

Mods or not, there is no way that the current engine will be able to compete with the new one.

Anyone who thinks otherwise is clueless, or a hopeless fanboy of aircraft types that won't be in the initial SOW:BoB release.

The current mods are just OK, and even with the beginnings of a QC program in the mod community that is taking place now, it will be too little, too late, once SOW hits the shelves.

Just my opinion, but I've been around the sim long enough to have a fairly clear picture of what will pan out towards the end of this year.

My only question is, Spitfire or Defiant?

:lol:

I had a theory that Oleg's "news black-out" was, in part, do to the modding scene... I believed that Oleg was trying to keep a few surprises under wraps in an effort to preserve the uniqueness of "SOW" upon its release. What do you think?

Me too... but you'll find me in a E3. :)

You could well be right, i really hope so.

That would be a life-or-death question then... ;0

I think I'm going to try the Hurricane too.. but nothing gives me more pleasure (speaking about VGs) than downing a Spitfire...

I'm waiting this too:
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Battle-Brita...732640&sr=1-19

I was saying that the modder's think of themselves as being better cooks...we all know that they could not boil water very well :grin:

I don't want to change this to a "modding" thread,but some of the mods are quite good, and at Oleg levels of quality. Most are not however.

A shining star is the Slot map.

The low end would be many of the "Franken planes" and many of the other maps that have been added.

As for BoB, with the new damage modeling I may be tempted to fly a Hurricane as well. Of course I will fly anything in the planeset, but untill we get French Hawk 75s I'll prolly be in the employ of the RAF.

(quote)
I don't want to change this to a "modding" thread


It's Friday, lets keep it as a "thanks" for the update thread...any minute now:grin:

His Russian front stuff is pretty thorough... fortunately, we're not likely to be short of BoB reading materials.

I had a thought about the new improved "damage Model"...while I think that we can all agree that this feature should add to the immersion of combat. I predict a whole new category of forum arguments where people bitch about the robustness of individual mechanical components under damage...and people looking for credible facts on the issue.

[Example] "The P-51's radiator might have been that delicate, but the oil system would never have broken like that when over heated"...

or

The pilot armor (strong) is too big on the FW190...

Obviously I know these planes will not be in the first "SOW"...but you get my meaning. The increased damage model will bread "half baked" ideas and paranoid theory's...

Gentle soul! I've just got to get some of the medication you are using.

:-P

Yes, I'm hoping the next update will be a substantial one. Simhq has a nice preview of ROF, that sim should make the wait for SOW alittle easier to take.

Sorry for misunderstanding your earlier post SlipBall.

~Salute~
Chivas

Yahoo! I got another drug sale:grin:

Thank's! A very interesting review. ROF it looks real good to me, it should be alot of fun

Oleg`s interview (russian)
Part 1: http://spread-wings.ru/index.php?opt...d=154&Itemid=1
Part 2: http://spread-wings.ru/index.php?opt...d=156&Itemid=1

There are some new pictures. ;)

Thxz

English - Part 1
English - Part 2

Q: -When working on a «mud» and «BzB» how do you solve the issue for two raynostey for this type of product: do not go to the arcade and simplified to avoid caring for the creation of a simulator for pilots, where each button and the toggle switch was responsible for clicks mouse?

OLEG: -Just: Considering the vast experience of communication with users all over the world. But the main principle is: Everyone wants to fly in an airplane, modeled the most approximate to the actual prototype, but all the buttons and levers, all the more so by the mouse - that's not all you need. In our experience of the past, even real pilots are not so interesting. And if you are interested, then at once - to try. Then it will be turned off in options, as one of my friends airman, «for the benefit of enjoying the flight, not masochism preparing to fly».

That answers the "Click-Pit" debate ;)

ROFL I love this guy :)

Q: In many interviews, you said that your wife is helping you in all that relates to your work inspires you. If so, it is very interesting to know, she tried to fly in the «Ile», or can it even be an active virpil? Indeed virtually all virpily male actively «podsev» to «Il» pass the following stages in the relationship with their women and girls: surprise on their part, misunderstandings and scandals. What is your impression of his wife is not on your success, which can not fail to delight loving woman, namely, virtual flight, and all that this involves?

OLEG: Recalled a story. Being in England at the Flight Simulator Show, where it was almost dominance among stands, Microsoft or companies that manufacture supplements to the simulator, I spoke at a press conference on Forgotten Battles shortly before last. At the press conference brought together over 300 people that will not fit in the room. It was 10 times more people than at a press conference on Microsoft for an hour before my own. After my speech, where I specifically said in Russian, as I translated my friend Ian Boys, I have agreed to answer any questions anyone without restrictions (also with a translation of Ian Boys). And there was one question that I myself could not resist answered in English, without waiting for the translation ... The question was what to do virpilu poor, if the wife does not play in the IL-2?. . To which I answered very briefly: Change wife ... Hall simply put one's sides. In general, I was lucky with my wife in all respects.:)

Finished about 60% (perhaps more), that bins the 2009 release, does it not?

If true it probably bins a 2010 release!

Lets hope not.

An asnwer that came as a surprise, he said there will be 11 flyables, but we already saw cockpit videos/pictures of 14 different planes. The Glad being a maybe and in case of the Moth it wouldn't make much sense to have her as a trainer without pit ;) Even though we haven't see it yet.

1. Spitfire Mark I
2. Hurricane Mark I
3. Blenheim IV
4. Gladiator II (maybe)
5. Tiger Moth
6. Bf109E-3
7. Bf110 (not sure which version)
8. Ju-88A-1
9. He-111H-2
10. Cr. 42
11. G. 50
12. Br. 20
13. Bonus Su-26 aerobatics plane
14. Ju87B

hmmm i guess thats why the SOW website never appeared it looks like there is a hell of a lot of work to do on this project.

Shove it out the door, patch it later
 

60% finished, that seem's odd considering that he had announced the soon to be SOW dedicated page, that never appeared, and no explanation given. Every year that goes by, my reflex's, eye sight get a little less capable for combat...let's get this to the market 1C :grin:

What Shall We Do Now
to fill the empty spaces ?

jaja

Oleg, hurry up!

I buy this machine:
PROC INTEL CORE2QUAD Q9400 2.66 GHZ 2.000MHZ
MOTHER ASUS P5QL-E 16 GB RAM
VIDEO GEFORCE 9500GT DDR3 512 MB PCI EXPRESS CORE CLOCK 600MHZ MEMORY CLOCK 2.000MHZ
HD SATA 500 GB 32 MB WD
DVD-RW 20X DUALLAYER LG
MEMORY DDR2 4 GB 800 MHZ KINGSTON (2X2GB)
GABINETE SENTEY RJA 246 LCD TEMPERATURA 4 COOLERS Y FUENTE 600W
4 COOLERS

Storm Of War will work fine with this ???!!!

Definitely not the best way to hurry him in my book... Maybe a little more tact ?

Didn't anyone check out the small video after the end of the interview transcript? Imagine flying over the Channel to an emergency deadstick landing, opening the canopy and listening to the sound of the waves as you approach the beach. It looked so nice i could almost feel the cold English weather :grin:

Can't find it, how about a link:grin:


Found it...surf's up!:o

That video is two years old...

new video
 

para los q hablan español, aca les paso un video de pilotos de la luftwafee q opinan sobre stotm of war
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sRFcxmjvD28
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sRFcxmjvD28
jajaja
(oleg, esto te pasa por hacerme esperar...;))

Maybe it would be better to make a quick summary for non spanish-speakers (and I presume they make quite a majority of people here)....

Those video's have been kick'in around YouTube for a couple of years now...some of the (UTube) responses said it was "fake" (or miss titled)...I don't know.

Yep, it's on the dvd that came with 1946.

Somebody at youtube tried:
Only a bit funny and and distastefull a lot, I think

very dumb and not for real vid

Straight wings interview
 

Oleg Oleg Oleg

Q: When playing Il-2 offline, many commented on inadequate AI behavior. Completing offline campaigns offered little excitement for that very reason. Will the quality of AI change with BoB?

A: Oh really? Have you seen better AI in any other sim? Generally, it was offline gameplay that drove most of our sales, and not the online modes. Of course, it’s more exciting to fly against a live opponent. AI will be smarter in BoB. We’ll even consider whether the pilot is tired or hurt, whether he’s a good shot or a master of aerobatics, and whether he’s a trooper or a coward. Other things, too… I’ve said too much already

It's one thing to have pride in your work, and another to be blind to its flaws. Have you flown against the AI in Battle of Britain 2 Wings of Victory lately? While IL2 is the benchmark in so many other areas (still) BOB2 is your AI benchmark, not your own IL2 AI.

In addition to different/more maneouvres being available to AI pilots with different levels of experience, the AI is very reactive, transitioning very smoothly from offensive to defensive and back again as needed. And above all, unpredictable - like a human pilot you never know what it is going to do.

My favorite AI elements in BoB2 WoV:

The Bf110 Lufberry: Bf110s when outnumbered will sometimes (not always) start a 'Lufberry', the circling maneouvre used by 110 pilots to enable them to cover each other's vulnerable rears. They'll hold it as long as they have energy and then scatter in all directions. Very historically accurate.

The Me109 'bunt': again historically accurate, the 109 can bunt or make a sharp dip, to get distance on a pursuing Spit or Hurricane whose Merlins stall if they try to do the same.

Individual AI experience levels: while the average experience in a staffel or flight may be eg Veteran, individual pilots in that flight may be Ace or rookie. The campaign game tracks their experience levels as the campaign progresses, increasing them as they gain 'experience'. Very real-life.

Cooperative AI: the AI pilots are aware of where their nearby comrades are which simulates radio contact between them. If I am on the tail of a Spit or 109, trying to get a deflection shot, it is not unusual to see it go into a slow turning climb or a short stretch of straight and level flight. Stupid? No! I immediately check my six and often I will find the AI has called for help and is cooperating to lure me into making an easy shot for his wingman who has gotten onto my tail! A perfect sucker move and insanely immersive when it happens to you.

Now you may say elements of these are coded into IL2 AI...but I can only say the experience of them in practice is completely different between the two sims. IL2 has many areas where it is miles ahead of BoB WoV, but it is behind on the AI.

The question above also related to the AI in campaigns saying offline campaigns were not immersive because of the AI. I disagree with that one - it's true that IL2 dynamic campaigns just seem to be a series of random and unconnected missions (go here, do that, repeat) but the scripted campaigns, mostly by players and third parties, were brilliantly immersive. I'm glad to see SoW is still going to accomodate players building their own scripted/branching campaigns.

with that video card? maybe on very low settings. A 9500gt is a major bottleneck in that system - not too many modern games are going to run smoothly.

Cough, one day to go :(:(:(

For sure ;)

The RAM may well be plenty, but a GF 9500 GT is a relatively weak card, there are weaker but you wouldn't want to play a modern game at anything like a high resolution with them. There is the 9500, there is the 9600 GSO, then there is the 9600 GT, then you get up to the 9800GT. Some versions of the GF 8800 are between the 9600 gt and the 9800, but not all, some 8800s are weaker than the 9600 gt. I think the GF 8600GT which is pretty weak compared to a 8800 or 9600 Gt is stronger than the 9500 gt, and these people seem to agree:

http://www.gpureview.com/show_cards....=513&card2=598

Pixels per second matter, FLOPS (floating point operations per second) matter, memory bandwidth matters, but the clockspeed only matters in the context of the pixels, FLOPS and memory bandwidth.

You say you play FSX with high details? at what resolution?

If you can tolerate a low resolution that card may be up to it, but it certainly won't be ideal, and if you want a higher resolution later you will have to buy a more powerful card then.

The 9800gt is only about $100. By the time this game comes out it will probably be in the $60-80 price range saying realistically were talking about at least halfway through 2010, in which PCIe3.0 will be hitting the market.

didn't they say we'd get an update "in about two weeks" about two weeks ago?

or was that the russian interview?

...and I thought by now they couldn't fool anyone with this lame old trick anymore ;)

They did? :(:(:(
Why they bothered I do not know :confused:
Rather keep quiet than promise an update that ends up being another box full of nothing :(

So the update was the question and answer thing, well at least we know that its about 60% completed, still there's always the dedicated SOW website to look forward to, that should be up and ready by last December.

What Oleg said exactly on SimHQ (March 03):

From Oleg Maddox:

Hi Folks!

Soon, in a week or so, I'll finish some article for SimHq, so you all will be able to read many things in the right light. English will be by Ilya Shevchenko smile Or even maybe part of the article will be his own as well.
PS. Article will be very interesting for sure smile

This we are still waiting for...

From Oleg Maddox

PS2. Ilya also traslates at the moment this Russian interview in Engilish and we will post it on 1C.publishing. There is answers to Russian users, that like to get USSR planes at first.

That we have...

From Oleg Maddox

So... the Article on SimHq will be really more intersting and greater with information.

IMHO this will be the update we are waiting for...

JV

Thanks for the info

LMAO...tomorrow will a week since that was posted. No doubt there will be cries of demands for Oleg to "Give us the update you promised" by 8 a.m.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v6...t56/carlin.jpg

I agree people can't seem to grasp the meaning of "Soon, in a week or so".

I'm certainly struggling with it Chivas, lets use the SOW website has an example, i think it was said they were hoping to finish it by the end of December, should i be alarmed or am i just completely out of sync with everyone else? It seems time means nothing to you guys but to me i seem to be constantly aware of it. I NEED HELP.

Funny, article...it really amazes me that some people still don't know how things work around here.

If you bother to read Olegs thoughts on "SOW" you will see that although he has "hopes" for completing various aspects of the game on a "time frame"...His overall philosophy has been that "the game will be done, when it is done".

Well thats fine then, but it may also explain why Ubisoft pulled out.

OK...

That's sill not an acceptable method of birth control though...http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v6...bolt56/der.gif


Tree_UK, have you tried that sim called IL2 yet? I hear it's really well done and can satisfy that urge to vicariously fly as a WWII pilot in just about ANY theater of war and has over 200 flyable aircraft...really.

I haven't tried it yet mate, i am not really into flight sims, to be honest i'm more interested in how meteorology has influenced the outcome of battle, hence my enthusiasm for Storm of War.

Good one Tree...that's funny :)

Under construction:http://stormofwar.ru/

WOW they have come a long way in the last few years!

Well they got the background finished all we need now is the 3D Models.

i need sow game done and 4sale well before 12-21-2012

I'm officially done with IL-2, after playing some of the new generation of games it is just to dated and holds little entertainment value, I never thought I'd get bored of it but it has happened.

Nike, this update we were getting in the next week or so, has it happened yet or is it still about to? I get so lost these days with updates on what updates we may or may not be getting/seeing/waiting for.

Hey if you want confusion, next time your in Australian, just for fun try asking the tax department for help filling in a tax return! ;)