I see that there is no way that a free software did use a shortcut by using the software of a regular company!
So it also never happened that the said free software did use their own interface after getting caught.
Of course only regular, money earning companies can be bad.
And the fact, posted on the homepage of said free software, that it still can and will use proprietary software, is a misunderstanding.
Oh, by the way when we are at it, communism WILL rule the world, be shure.

You can read? 16 pages explaining EVERYTHING and this talking about "software"?

No communism, just use your brain a little:

1 - Freetrack actual version didn't use "NP code". Freetrack has your own interface;

2 - Freetrack is GNU, open source, free. It's made to use a lot of hardware options to create a HT solution;

3 - Today a big sim company give Freetrack suport for their MAJOR tiltes, so the "legal" talking is plain stupid.

Amazes me how people sound like a broken record. "proprietary software"... My God!

This kind of discussion is over. If 1C didn't have some "classified" commercial agreement with NP, 1C CAN GIVE FREETRACK SUPORT IN IL-2:COD! Simples as that, Bohemia Interactive did it.

But what makes me really laugh if that people like Robtek jump in defense of NP and CoD devs don't answer the questions, like ED didn't answer questions... Thank's God BIS devs don't hide in shadows and listen to the customers, maybe they don't need so much NP money.

But "capitalist" people believe that is normal... People even know what capitalism is about, I will bottle air and block people to beath normally... It's the same thing.

Tired of that. Please Oleg, if you can't answer or questions and if CoD get out without Freetrack suport, don't cry if people hack your .exe to use Freetrack .dll. Devs complaint a lot of hackers, piracy, but do little to give LEGAL CUSTOMERS suport and options.

As I said: shame. Just that.

As i see that the "same opinion as mine or enemy"-people have also lost the ability to read without prejudice ...
Happy dreams

Good job wingmen!!! Watch for W-R, he'll be on your 6 anytime now.

You don't have one "opinion". I'm a Freetrack user, I don't care if you can't underestand how Freetrack works. But when you came to one topic about suport to Freetrack in CoD and start talking nonsense things about "proprietary software", what's your point?

There isn't any "moral" or "legal" subject regards Freetrack. If you can't undestand that, it's sad. But MAYBE exists some agreement between NP and 1C. And if it exists, you can think about why some software companies didn't discuss openly about other HT solutions... Maybe the "ilegal" stuff is somewere else...

But Freetrack is evil...

That's not an unusual stance to take there


Great... at least we can agree on the basic premise

Why does it have to be the developer soley?
Does the developer need to scour out every part of the ' net to hunt down what may or may not be available "tracker" wise?

refer to the points made on "locking others out" and I think you'll the invalidation of your argument there. Microsoft provide drivers, generic drivers for use by joysticks... they also provide drivers (I believe) for webams and they supply those drivers with their operating systems.


Excellent, yet we don't hear the same cries from others of the same frame of mind.


No problem there... all FT and others need to do is work with the developer to have the tracker product included... see my earlier point on searching the web through... but, and but FSX has Simconnect. Yes, simconnect and the FT crowd pass that over in favour of hacking out NP software. Let me remind at this point of your stated views of hacking and FT being able to run without NP software installed.

and what happened there? that's right NP made the approach to the developers

okay... the two need to work together - fine

hmm, no... its not misleading Facrtrack seems to be able to enable within a game without NP software being installed (even though facetrack still has a function to interact through NP software). Has anyone noticed that FaceTrack is cheaper still than FT?

How to fix that is by (your own point) getting with the developer of the game they would like inclusion with... it simple, yes?

Face Track has a PPJoy. exe (freeware) asociated with it, which seems to interact just fine... but once again, this gets passed over in favour of relying on NP software


see the previous point

nobody has tied your hands behind your back for you... you've done that yourself.

A good show of faith on FT's (and other tracking developers' part), would be to remove any reliance on NP software from their product and then talk turkey with any game developers they want inclusion of their tracking programs in.

As far as the headbutting goes... you keep missing though ;)

Cant you guys stop this stupid discussion???????????****!

Freetrack isn't really considered legal while it has reliance on NP software, which you'll find is the whole crux of the matter..

Threats to iC ? this is going to help your cause?

"proprietry software"? what, people should just give you everything you want? you believe you can just take anything you want?[i]? Does the world owe you a living or something?




mate, what you're seeing here isn't communism... what your witnessing, is what got WWII started, complete with the "useful idiots" in tow.

Why game developers include track ir support and not others? Because of NP aggressive marketing and advertising. NP is like Justin Bieber. You can't take a piss and not hear about them. Who should do the marketing for freetrack or xxxxxtrack and approach the developer if those are free, open community projects? They are not a company nor they need to sell anything.
Developers already know about freetrack and other alternatives and it's up to their good mood to include them if you will.