Yeah, I'm with you there LoBiSoMeM. 1946 is just not cutting it any more in comparison with the flashes of brilliance in CoD. CEM is the main difference for me, too.

No, it's not real.

Real is ACTUAL GAMEPLAY, with solid +40 FPS in low level flight, straffing and bombing things...

As I said: fixed benchmarks are stupid sometimes, and lead to some equaly stupid conclusions...

People really don't learn... That's why readers that don't tried CloD yeat need to filter all stupidity out of this forum...

Please could you now do the same test @ 1920x1080, with all settings on medium, but with roads, shadows and grass on; ssao, v-synch, epi, and AA off, so I can make a direct comparison with my benchmark?

As I may be in the market for a new graphics card it would be very useful.

Oh, by the way, it would also be nice if you could post the benchmark result in standard FRAPS format.

Thanks! :)

That's fine. I'm not trying to change your mind. We just have different takes at this point in time. Remember, I have the game. I can play it on low settings offline and have done so. So it's not like I'm oblivious to the CEM and DM it brings to the table. I have several hours invested in CLoT controls script written too, so I had to figure out what was going on with the anthorpromorphic crap...etc. to even write those because I almost always fly full real. Anyway, UP 3.0 runs smooth as glass to me. The sounds are awesome, more content, min FPS on BlackDeath is ~30 with vsync on...etc. Those things matter more to me than open/close the fuel cock. I just don't get that. What is so great about that? There's no real fuel flowing...it's still just pixels and number crunching, albeit, more number crunching. Anyway, I will jump to CLoT eventually (hopefully). Ha, ha, I call it CLoT because it giving everyone a heart attack. But not now. Even if I buy 580 gtx with 3 gb, I know I will be dissappointed in the frame rates and graphic performance. It's just not worth it to me now. I keep hoping that the next patch will change this. So I come here now and again to check to see. I'm thinking it will be at least a year at this pace.

Ok, you bought the sim and can't run in your outdated rig OK. And believe that nobody can do that.

Bad for you. The simple point is that this sim runs OK in a x4 3.4Ghz CPU, 4GB of RAM, and a 560Ti. Live with that.

You are REALLY comparing UP 3.0 with Cliffs of Dover in terms of FPS performance? Is that a joke? I run 46 here with 60 FPS anytime, any track, any mod. 46 is based in an old graphic engine, and modern hardware runs it easy.

Another case of "I can't/don't fly CloD and I hate it!"

Pretty Please?

Trying to catch up to your post.

I know that it isn't actual gameplay. It is a benchmark and frame of reference. Your standard for graphics performance and mine are clearly different. I expect the BlackDeath track to run smooth and stutter free at 30+ fps at all times. That's my standard because that's what I have now in UP/46'. I'm not going to trade my graphics standard for better DM/CEM. It's not enough for me. I really had an expectation that this game would perform better graphics wise given the changes in technology the past 10 years. Maybe they need to go back to Open G/L. It always ran better than Direct X in 1946.

Havent read through all these posts. Just a note to ask where are we at? I havent been playing this sim, mostly HSFX il2 which I find amazing. Last time I checked in, things like CEM and the altitude model were broken, correct me if I am wrong. Note: I have this sim and regard it potentially as ground breaking for ww2 sims. And fingers crossed, the way forward. Its just that I dont have time to test all its features, put up with the frustrations. Hence my focus on HSFX 5.1 Il2. I can just jump in and go. Thanks.

When someone posts a Cliffs of Dover Black Death FRAPS benchmark with 30 FPS as a minimum, I'll be impressed.:)

(crap, someone's just gonna make one up now, eh?)

Lol, probably.