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DVAFP 04-14-2011 04:51 PM

there's going to be a lot of pissed off people monday who didnt read the forums and are suddenly banned from online play.

Isnt banning a little bit harsh? There's going to be a lot of people banned because of innocent mistakes if i understand correctly.
Does this mean that if you use a skin you will be banned?

Wouldnt a message saying "can't connect to server because of mismatch of files" be more appropriate?

I understand you don't like people messing around with your game but if you dont want people messing around with the game then maybe you shouldn't have released a half finished game.

Get your priorities straight, first fix the game, then implement anti-cheating measures you deem appropriate.

Right now i dont believe anyone would be changing textures to cheat online, its pretty ridiculous really.

Truth is, you feel insulted people are changing your work so you warn people they'll be banned if they do it again. Well i feel insulted you sold me a half finished game.

by the way i'm not using any mods cause i'm a sucker for eyecandy.

MD_Wild_Weasel 04-14-2011 05:00 PM

ty for the update! very welcomed especially the multiplayer part!

Sperber 04-14-2011 05:05 PM

Fov
 
Many thx for the good News and work !! :grin:

BUT

Please make the FOV for Three Monitors please please !!

I write -fov=75,110,140 and i can fly with 3 Monitors !

Please do it too for the next Patch :-P

It is the hell when i must fly with one MONITOR :evil:

Lurker 04-14-2011 05:10 PM

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Originally Posted by DVAFP (Post 263004)
Truth is, you feel insulted people are changing your work so you warn people they'll be banned if they do it again. Well i feel insulted you sold me a half finished game.

Truth is you don't even know what you're speaking about. Read carefully Luthier's posts, you'll understand.

bluescreen2 04-14-2011 05:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Lurker (Post 263016)
Truth is you don't even know what you're speaking about. Read carefully Luthier's posts, you'll understand.

i dont get it either. iam not cheating but using all three mods. ssod, texturesize and mipmaps. is it allowed to play online with all three mods or not?

MD_Titus 04-14-2011 05:14 PM

cheers for the update luthier

as for force feedback, damn - that should be low down the list of priorities.

Buzzer 04-14-2011 05:28 PM

Thanks! Sounds good.

Ready to beta-test tomorrow ;)

DrPepper 04-14-2011 05:30 PM

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Originally Posted by DrPepper (Post 262979)
Yes the loosening would open up avenues for cheaters, so it isn't a good idea (see post above yours).

I guess I'm confused, they mention an SDK will be released which I think would allow all sorts of custom things to be made for the game... So they support additional content for the game, but at the same time an insta ban can be issued for using custom stuff in online games.

Seems like they are opening the possibility for innocent mistakes to happen easily if someone uses content created with the SDK? Maybe I'm not understanding what the SDK will allow access to. But, as far as I know SDK's usually allow programmers to interface with specific aspects of the engine to customize the game (content and functionality).

I guess what I'm getting at is I like the idea of customized stuff with the SDK, but there has to be some safety net for people using it in the way it was intended to be used without risk of accidental perma ban.

Hmmm, re-read luthiers post and I think I have my own answer. There will be an approved SDK and an approved MOD switcher. If you are using the approved mod switcher then I would assume the game would just say to go back to stock before joining.

Now, if you are not using the approved sdk and mod switcher and fooling around with the files to try and bypass the checks, etc... then I would assume no warning would be given and you could kiss your online play goodbye...

Now that would make more sense, but still going to wait until all that is actually working before judging the system.

Anyways, great work on the patch! I am excited to try it out tomorrow.

41Sqn_Stormcrow 04-14-2011 05:31 PM

Great news and good to know that work continues (I never had doubts). Don't forget though to chill out from time to time and spend some nice week ends and evenings with family and friends.

As far as I understood only cheat mods will lead to a ban. But I would not rely on VAC to work always properly and capable to distinguish a non cheat mod from a cheat mod. I don't and won't use any mods and my only modifications are for conf.ini and user and control files. Luthier, can you assure me that modifications in these openly accessible files won't lead to a ban? I am a complete ignorant concerning this kind of computer stuff and I am a bit afraid of being banned for nothing.

I think there are more important things than FFB such as a halfway finished product and some good sounds. But in the end I too would like to have FFB. But no priority for me right now.

cato_larsen 04-14-2011 05:34 PM

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Originally Posted by bluescreen2 (Post 263017)
i dont get it either. iam not cheating but using all three mods. ssod, texturesize and mipmaps. is it allowed to play online with all three mods or not?

No.
They have not done the work ready for the game to use different content or that is, any different files from the original files. While Luthier says you are welcome to fiddle with you game on your own computer OFFLINE, you will be serverd a ban if using them online, wich would/could give you an unfair advantage over others not using it.

Now, if you are a stubborn guy/ who wants to argue about it, feel free to claim it as your freedom of speak, mandatory right as a human or blah blah constitutional blah blah (not talking to bluescreen, but to the general forum readers here) But read that you are violation the EULA (end user "funny word" AGREEMENT) By tinkering with the files in the game.

So... until the game has been altered/fixed/modified by Maddox games to work with 3rd party content and files and so on, for your own good. Do not use any other files online, but an original game.

Someone should ticky that info with something of BAN in the title.


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