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Rule one of the bomber crews. Do not bail out over the town you just bombed. I've read an account of a B17 crew that got lynched after they were transported thru a town that had been bombed by the RAF the night before.

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Originally Posted by BigC208 (Post 201671)

Think there was alot of these situations, in general air sea and land. But thats the storys not told by the books....and even though i dont like to admit it it, its actualy a understandeble reaction....i donyt agree with this, but its understandeble.....

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Originally Posted by Dutch_851 (Post 201658)

Cheeky so and so. That's my uncle Jack and Auntie Alice you're laughing at.

And the only gods we had were the gods of ration coupons and black market fags and booze.

And the god of knee tremblers in the garden shed.:rolleyes::grin:

Intresting. I may have to then watch that movie if it really shows accurately culture. I didn't by the way say there was something wrong in them.

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Originally Posted by WTE_Galway (Post 201664)

During the Battle of Britain the British military and police had to get to German downed pilots quickly as they were often attacked by angry mobs.

One well documented case occurred on 15 Sep 40 when a Dornier Do17Z of 1 Staffel, KG76 piloted by Oberleutnant Robert Zehbe (born 9 Dec 1913 Kiel) crashed on Victoria Station after some of the crew baled out. Zehbe landed by parachute in Kennington, London. He was attacked by a mob of civilians however the British military had a chance to intervene and take him to hospital where he died the next day. Whether he died of wounds received in the air battle or as a result of the civilian attack remains controversial.

That is what I would had expected more the British people do in the video. I have heard work class Englishmen can be rough. Maybe the pilot dropped on countryside where there were more "posh" people?

Edit: Or maybe it was very beginning of the war and people were more amused and surprised? Also curious as it seemed while still fearing. It just looked like that would had never happened, indicating the movie is crap. The police though looked very angry but maybe managed to control himself. One woman begun to beat the woman flirting, so is the movie some sort of comedy? Humorous way to show many faces the war had? Romantical adventure movie?

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Originally Posted by BigC208 (Post 201671)

Lol that rule makes very much sense, I think.

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Originally Posted by BigC208 (Post 201671)

True, the USAF still advises against it. But the risk wasn't all on the Allied side. Several German pilots got lynched in cases of mistaken identity. Gunther Räll almost got pitchforked by an angry famer after he was shot down.

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Originally Posted by moilami (Post 201704)

Intresting. I may have to then watch that movie if it really shows accurately culture. I didn't by the way say there was something wrong in them.

Don't worry Moilami, that's my peculiar English sense of humour.
It's a good film though, in a light hearted kind of way.:)

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Originally Posted by Avimimus (Post 200440)

(in reference to airmen flying for Nazi Germany)

But it doesn't change the fact that a lot of good people and innocents were killed by German pilots fighting the war. It also doesn't change the fact that they were fighting on behalf of a nation which had a horrible and inhumane regime that was simultaneously conducting horrible crimes.

Does that make sense?

No.

While the statement is technically true, it misses the entire scope, and that is what is wrong.
Basically, not all German pilots fired weapons, and not many of those where hard core Nazi, it was a mission they where ordered to do, like it or not.
You also need to consider other regimes that ordered their pilots to basically kill innocent civilians, even though they did want to.
I am not defending Nazis.

I could go on, but other have points as well.

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Originally Posted by moilami (Post 201390)

Train my friend. And hopefully we see Lentolaivue 34 reformed and brought back to its former glory with Erkki et all.

Sorry for offtopic but I have never belonged to LeLv34.

You dont see many of the Finnish squads anymore on the public df servers in HL because we're elsewhere.

If it was a joke... Well, you moilami have made better ones.

No, it was not a joke. What's wrong in making virtual Lentolaivue 34 a squadron par excellence, as it was in real?

I will have to discuss with you privately someday about stuff.

(Sorry everyone for OT.)