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ruggbutt 08-09-2011 12:06 AM

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Originally Posted by CharveL (Post 321412)
5. Political and religious discussions are prohibited.


http://forum.1cpublishing.eu/showthread.php?t=25163

You were the kid that snitched off the other kids in school, huh?

ATAG_Dutch 08-09-2011 12:49 AM

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Originally Posted by louisv (Post 320194)
Not every word on UFOs comes from ***holes or cretins. A lot comes from retired airline pilots, who can now speak as their job is not at stake.

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Originally Posted by Dutch_851 (Post 320278)
They can also speak due to the lure of the mighty dollar. Retired airline pilots also have debts and bills to pay. If any of them really are retired airline pilots that is.

Using retired airline pilots is simply trying to lend an air of professional credibility to the arguments and is swallowed wholesale by the same gullible people I was referring to.

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Originally Posted by Lixma (Post 321339)
Credentials, schmedentials.

Over half a century of testimony of people seeing lights in the skies.

Over half a century of chancers claiming to have worked at this secret base or that.

Over half a century of friends of cousins of grandfathers crawling out of the woodwork to claim they held in their hands some weird metallic material on a ranch in New Mexico.

Over half a century of special people and their 'support groups' drearily interpreting their nightmares as alien abductions.

Over half a century of reports of 'craft' travelling this way and that at hypersonic speed through the atmosphere.

Over half a century of hundreds of flying saucers crashing into every acre of land that ever heard of a 'Grey'.

Over a decade of practically everyone in North America and Europe having a camera-phone or cam-corder.

And yet....and yet....

Not one single nut.

Not one single bolt.

Not one sliver of tangible evidence that any of this fantasy has any basis in reality whatsoever.

Juat a lot of film showing F-117's at night. Yes, they still show them as evidence of 'alien spacecraft'. Together with some borderline schizophrenics talking about abductions. Give me a break.

And Jesus was just a good socialist attempting to work under the yoke of a military dictatorship.

Karl Marx - Equal distribution of wealth, JC- 5 loaves and three fishes. Or is it 3 loaves and 5 fishes? Turn over the tables of the moneylenders anyone? 'No, no crucify him'. Good socialist. Not a deity.

Wolf_Rider 08-09-2011 03:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Oldschool61 (Post 321313)
Isnt thisthread about UFO's?? What does the size or speed of the universe have to do with UFO's??? Start a new thread on the origins of the universe already!!

well... it all sorta, kinda, ties in together

CharveL 08-09-2011 03:57 AM

When the whole credibility thing comes up I can't help but think of the airline pilots who were reporting over comms about this UFO until they started to come in to land and realized against the treeline it was a piece of wheat stuck to their window.

Or that cop that chased Venus down winding roads for half a state not realizing it was him that was moving not his foo fighter. :-P

hiro 08-09-2011 04:11 AM

there is a possibility of UFO's . . . I think there is. Do i believe those alien shows?

Nope. Not since the alien autopsy hoax and the pictures of triangular shaped aircraft that looks like have blue.

Or the one with the cylindrical shaped rocket that burned and gave radiation burns to the witnesses (US govt testing of nuclear jet engines . . .) and how brilliant and awesome coloring the exhaust was . . .


astronomers are discovering more solar systems with a sun with a planet in the habitable "ring"* for earth based life.

*orbit / zone / distance from sun to sustain life without frying or freezing it


But alien life may have a different set of natural boundaries and laws set up for it and may not require the same habitable ring


At the same time sun dancing making lights on off your canopy can explain
that bend the laws of aerodynamics as human aerospace vehicles are capable



And why do you have to bring religion into this. The Christians have 1 UP in this area because TONS of credible witness to weird things, like WW 2 nuking and the only building left at ground zero was German Christian missionary home or how they have tons of saints where their bodies are uncorrupted for hundreds of years.



Human understanding only gets us so far. We don't know everything, nor will we ever be.

That's why its in the human spirit to question, to ask, to seek. And sometimes some shortchange by finding the quick answer or making up truth.

Troll2k 08-09-2011 04:12 AM

http://www.space.com/12475-ufo-ocean-floor.html

Oldschool61 08-09-2011 11:47 AM

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Originally Posted by hiro (Post 321561)

And why do you have to bring religion into this. The Christians have 1 UP in this area because TONS of credible witness to weird things, like WW 2 nuking and the only building left at ground zero was German Christian missionary home or how they have tons of saints where their bodies are uncorrupted for hundreds of years.

Well since you asked, because people believe in there mythological person despite no evidence yet make fun of UFO's when there are hundreds of credible witness's.
And contrary to your claims of evidence there is none despite your wishfull thinking. I have been researching mythological deities for several years and everyone has ended up being false or just another myth.

We nuked Germany in WW2? I thought that was Japan. Witness to something rare is not proof of anything. Saints are normal people.
If that is your standard for evidence than by your definition UFO's are 100% real.

SEE 08-09-2011 12:59 PM

UFO's, ET life and the mysteries of the universe are fascinating topics. When I look up in the middle of the night I am looking back in time. How far back in time depends on the distance of the star or galaxy.

It may well be that what I am looking at no longer exists or something that does exist in my present time period has yet to appear. Life may well have established itself but what I and observatories see is the historical past not the present.

I saw a documentary on SETI and the search criteria is extremely narrow in terms of the Radio Frequency that is being searched for. SETI may never actually reveal or find evidence as it is has to work with assumptions.

Me, I keep an open mind. Charles C Clarke said something along the lines that the implications for mankind were equally imense if we were not alone or discovered that we were alone!

My only encounter with UFO's was during the weekend at 1-30 am.................on the Syndicate server!

CharveL 08-09-2011 01:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Troll2k (Post 321562)

omg, something round in the ocean?

Well, I take everything I said back now!

Xilon_x 08-09-2011 01:57 PM

U.F.O. exist in the planet earth from over 1000 years past ago.
TODAY U.S.A. U.K. FRANCE RUSSIA ENGLAND GERMANY ITALY(VATICAN) have this secret.
OBAMA have this secret in the blue book.
ANTARTIDE is THE KEY OF ALL SECRETS yes in ANTARDITE EXIST SECRET BASE FOR STUDY NEW TECNOLGY AND NEW FORM EXTRATERRIASTRIAL LIFE.
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