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Hellbender 10-24-2012 02:51 PM

I was set on fire twice so far when my engine got shredded and I saw orange flames left and right of my cockpit.

FFCW_Urizen 10-24-2012 03:03 PM

never had that either, usually for me it´s one of 3 scenarios:

1. wing ripped to shreds -> B/O
2. controls gone -> B/O (i´m not thinking of any particular 6./JG26 pilot, now do i david :D )
3. PKed -> RIP

Hellbender 10-24-2012 04:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FFCW_Urizen (Post 472749)
never had that either, usually for me it´s one of 3 scenarios:

1. wing ripped to shreds -> B/O
2. controls gone -> B/O (i´m not thinking of any particular 6./JG26 pilot, now do i david :D )
3. PKed -> RIP

You may have forgotten that in these days the following occurs very often:

4. Water/Oil Radiator is perforated/damaged leaking and you have to B/O :grin:

FFCW_Urizen 10-24-2012 05:05 PM

you are right, forgot that one :D

David198502 10-24-2012 05:12 PM

well urizen, meanwhile i practised to make pilot kills, and im quite successfull doing so...so you might soon notice a difference.... :)

*Buzzsaw* 10-24-2012 05:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ze-Jamz (Post 472690)
Fellas neither side can prove how abundant these rounds were and I'm guessing the devs couldn't either so they are modeled...get over it

I'm calling Bullsh*t on this.

I have already provided proof these rounds were 1-2% of the total LMG rounds manufactured, in addition, there was a known shortage of Wolfram the raw material used to manufacture Tungsten Acid, which was such the whole manufacture of the material was discontinued in 1942.

In addition, the Wehrmacht used the rounds as well, they were not made for the Luftwaffe exclusively, and the Wehrmacht had huge requirements, there were over 750,000 MG34 and MG42's produced for them, compared to 24,000 MG17's for the Luftwaffe.

The game shows the historical belt loadouts for both sides, as 'Default', and the SmK (H) is not even listed as part of the historical belt loadouts for 109E's.

FFCW_Urizen 10-24-2012 05:30 PM

we´ll see about that :cool:

€: meant as response to david Buzz! u just snuck in there mate ;)

Slipstream2012 10-24-2012 05:44 PM

Just a quick distraction from the forum furballing :grin:

Got two pilot kills in two hours yesterday, first time I've had two PK's since the old IL2 :cool:

*Buzzsaw* 10-24-2012 06:03 PM

Salute Notafinger

Quote:

Originally Posted by notafinger! (Post 472703)
Very well said. To go further this is actually a reaction by blue flyers to what red was doing. For a very long time 99% of red was flying Spits exclusively, nobody was using Hurricanes.

The reason no one flew the Hurricane was because it was 534 lbs overweight, stalled like a pregnant whale, and couldn't outturn the 109's unlike the historical aircraft. Even now most people prefer the Spitfire because of its better speed.

Quote:

Originally Posted by notafinger! (Post 472703)
Since Spit wings absorb 20mm shells like a sponge some blue pilots, including myself, changed their tactics to something that would be more effective against Spitfires. If you can't kill the machine you had to kill the pilot. Considering how vulnerable the 109 is to cooling system, engine, fuel tank, and even pilot damage much of what is being said in this thread is just sour grapes.

If you have a problem with the Spit DM, then I would suggest you provide proof and make it known.

This argument has no relevance to the issue of the use of these Tungsten rounds and whether or not that is accurate.

Ze-Jamz 10-24-2012 06:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by *Buzzsaw* (Post 472780)
I'm calling Bullsh*t on this.

I have already provided proof these rounds were 1-2% of the total LMG rounds manufactured, in addition, there was a known shortage of Wolfram the raw material used to manufacture Tungsten Acid, which was such the whole manufacture of the material was discontinued in 1942.

In addition, the Wehrmacht used the rounds as well, they were not made for the Luftwaffe exclusively, and the Wehrmacht had huge requirements, there were over 750,000 MG34 and MG42's produced for them, compared to 24,000 MG17's for the Luftwaffe.

The game shows the historical belt loadouts for both sides, as 'Default', and the SmK (H) is not even listed as part of the historical belt loadouts for 109E's.

Which means what? That doesnt proove F** All!


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