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Sternjaeger II 09-18-2011 08:19 PM

I'm sorry Bongo,you know I like you man,but I dont think we'll ever agree on this one. I'm approaching this with an unbiased historian perspective,you're taking this more on a national pride thing.

I suppose that when my (British) history professor told me "there's no way to point out to a Briton that the Battle of Britain was in fact no victory" he knew what he was talking about ;-)

TUSA/TX-Gunslinger 09-18-2011 08:29 PM

Hooray! Best sign of a healthy WW2 Combat flight simulation:

Threads in which the war is being re-fought versus other topics.

On to the .50 cals vs Tigers......

Congratulations!

S!

Gunny

bongodriver 09-18-2011 08:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Sternjaeger II (Post 337963)
I'm sorry Bongo,you know I like you man,but I dont think we'll ever agree on this one. I'm approaching this with an unbiased historian perspective,you're taking this more on a national pride thing.

I suppose that when my (British) history professor told me "there's no way to point out to a Briton that the Battle of Britain was in fact no victory" he knew what he was talking about ;-)

Same here, we have more things outside of this that we do agree on.

I just find it very confusing how some people interpret a Brit saying 'we won the battle of britain' as 'we won the war single handed', even more confusing is this desparate need by the same people to find the most insignificant semantics to try and discredit the British with any ability to fight in any way shape or form, the fact is we fought extremely well for the most part and have a hell of alot to be proud of, like just fighting because it was the right thing to do, so we had friends to help....mainly because they knew it was the right thing to do as well, if it floats your boat to believe the Germans were merely distracted by anything the Brits did then fine.....it's a free world (but no thanks to the Allies eh?)

just because your history teacher was British doesn't prove anything

bongodriver 09-18-2011 08:36 PM

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Originally Posted by TUSA/TX-Gunslinger (Post 337966)
Hooray! Best sign of a healthy WW2 Combat flight simulation:

Threads in which the war is being re-fought versus other topics.

On to the .50 cals vs Tigers......

Congratulations!

S!

Gunny

it's uncanny, a lone stubborn Brit, holding out against some (rude) Germans and a small contingent of Italians.

I bet if an American showed up the whole thing would be over in a heartbeat...

von Pilsner 09-18-2011 08:44 PM

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Originally Posted by bongodriver (Post 337968)
it's uncanny, a lone stubborn Brit, holding out against some (rude) Germans and a small contingent of Italians.

I bet if an American showed up the whole thing would be over in a heartbeat...

http://bs.beckament.net/files_pub/Fl...evelt-1941.jpg
Here in the USofA we are sympathetic to the British plight but hampered by the Neutrality Acts, perhaps we could institute some kind of lend-lease program to provide support to Britain and the Commonwealth. :D

ATAG_Dutch 09-18-2011 08:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Sternjaeger II (Post 337963)
I'm approaching this with an unbiased historian perspective.

:lol:

ATAG_Dutch 09-18-2011 08:48 PM

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Originally Posted by bongodriver (Post 337968)
a lone stubborn Brit

Blimey, does this mean I'm on your ignore list?:rolleyes:

bongodriver 09-18-2011 08:50 PM

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Originally Posted by von Pilsner (Post 337973)
http://bs.beckament.net/files_pub/Fl...evelt-1941.jpg
Here in the USofA we are sympathetic to the British plight but hampered by the Neutrality Acts, perhaps we could institute some kind of lend-lease program to provide support to Britain and the Commonwealth. :D

Smashing! if you wouldn't mind sending us some fuel, ammo, ships, planes and tea, you see we haven't spent the last 20 years massing a massive machine of agression and it's all for a good cause....god I hope we don't end up paying for this for the rest of our lives.

Yours anxiously

The British

bongodriver 09-18-2011 08:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Dutch_851 (Post 337975)
Blimey, does this mean I'm on your ignore list?:rolleyes:

No Dutch, it's just I'm making most of the noise here, feel free to muck in my friend, I never use the ignore list or report button.

Sternjaeger II 09-18-2011 09:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Dutch_851 (Post 337974)
:lol:

How is that supposed to be funny? Apart for the different conclusions that we reached,where did I show any bias or mention incorrect references? It might be a light argument for you,but I take the thing very seriously,considering that I achieved a BA Hons in History in the UK and argued over this topic endlessly ever since.

For the record,I too believed that Great Britain won the Battle of Britain,but I was proven wrong (as many of my course mates,and not without polemics) by a British Professor.


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