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Jughead 03-12-2011 12:21 AM

So, where's the hundreds of bombers and fighters? Is this game to represent the Battle of Britain? Do they teach different history in Russia? Maybe my history is wrong, but I thought the Germans sent huge amounts of bombers and fighters and Britain responded appropriately.

zauii 03-12-2011 12:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Jughead (Post 233541)
So, where's the hundreds of bombers and fighters? Is this game to represent the Battle of Britain? Do they teach different history in Russia? Maybe my history is wrong, but I thought the Germans sent huge amounts of bombers and fighters and Britain responded appropriately.

Last time i checked this was a realistic game not a 1:1 of the real BoB, you're welcome to do an attempt of 1:1 yourself with current technology, money and time.
Looking forward to your amazing product, "were is the ability to go take a dump in arma2.. i want my money back its unrealistic.."

Insuber 03-12-2011 12:30 AM

I believe that Tree is right. Not a cheat by OM though, just an inherent feature of the movie making tool, if I understood correctly Luthier's post.

Cheers,
Insuber

Jughead 03-12-2011 12:42 AM

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Originally Posted by zauii (Post 233543)
Last time i checked this was a realistic game not a 1:1 of the real BoB, you're welcome to do an attempt of 1:1 yourself with current technology, money and time.
Looking forward to your amazing product, "were is the ability to go take a dump in arma2.. i want my money back its unrealistic.."

Ok, point taken. 100 planes then. Or heck, say 50-70. Because 4 ain't gonna get it.

proton45 03-12-2011 12:44 AM

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Originally Posted by kendo65 (Post 233537)
I find it hard to believe that I'm actually posting this craziness - just put it down to pre-release tension :)


I just want to say that I don't buy Tree's much-repeated 'post action render theory' on the videos:

1. If they were going to use this method to cheat us ('cos that's what it amounts to) the logical thing would be to use it to show 200 bombers over London, with flak, Spits, 109s, etc, etc.

2. Pretty stupid broadcasting to everyone that the slow-rendering feature exists at all if they had even an inkling that they would use it to cheat. ie they'd keep it secret - then we (or some of us) wouldn't suspect anything.

3. They'd get found out when game releases. The boost to initial sales would in no way compensate for the damage to their reputation and subsequent loss of sales in the future.

4. And this is by far the biggest and most obvious reason - they are respectable and honourable people who care about what they do. They haven't shown any tendency in the past to over-hype products or cheat anyone. They've been brutally honest also about the state of play concerning the various features that won't make the initial release.

So please Tree, do us a favour, give it a rest


Tree is just trolling again. The one thing you can always count on, is...the higher the excitement & expectation is, the harder the trolls work at...um, being trolls.

Trolls sense the heightened joy and expectation, and they want to bring people down to their negative level. The one thing you can always count on...the better things look, the harder they work...

Bottom line...I'm not to worried about how good the game will be, things are looking pretty good.

Kikuchiyo 03-12-2011 12:45 AM

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Originally Posted by kendo65 (Post 233537)
I find it hard to believe that I'm actually posting this craziness - just put it down to pre-release tension :)


I just want to say that I don't buy Tree's much-repeated 'post action render theory' on the videos:

1. If they were going to use this method to cheat us ('cos that's what it amounts to) the logical thing would be to use it to show 200 bombers over London, with flak, Spits, 109s, etc, etc. AND they would max out Anti-aliasing instead of showing us an obviously minimally if completely unantialliased "movie" of the game.

It only makes sense

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Originally Posted by proton45 (Post 233548)
Tree is just trolling again. The one thing you can always count on, is...the higher the excitement & expectation is, the harder the trolls work at...um, being trolls.

Trolls sense the heightened joy and expectation, and they want to bring people down to their negative level. The one thing you can always count on...the better things look, the harder they work...

Bottom line...I'm not to worried about how good the game will be, things are looking pretty good.

I don't think Tree is so much a troll as he is just very pessimistic.

White Owl 03-12-2011 01:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Space Communist (Post 233492)
Beautiful video, but one thing I was surprised not to see was a certain "jitter" in the instruments. Now maybe somebody can set me right here because I have only been in the cockpit of an (airborne) aircraft once before and it was a 50 year old Piper, but in that thing the needles just kind of bounced around the indicated points on the various dials rather than smoothly pointing at one place. Was that effect just due the age of the aircraft?

Most aircraft, even very old ones, don't have that problem. Of course some instruments are more sensitive than others, depending on what information they're displaying. But if every needle was vibrating all over the place, I would be... concerned.

airmalik 03-12-2011 02:52 AM

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Originally Posted by major_setback (Post 233520)
It shouldn't matter how windy it is, from that height you shouldn't see much of the waves at all.

Agreed. The waves make it appear you're much lower which in turn makes the cliffs look smaller. Scale's definitely off.

CharveL 03-12-2011 02:57 AM

Tree is actually (likely) right since the man himself said before the track renderer doesn't care what the frame rate is, it would just take longer to render the track on that slower machine.

You're all making something out of nothing (big surprise) because this is about showing a preview of the sim, not a submission to benchmarking geeks.

Redwan 03-12-2011 03:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Tree_UK (Post 233474)
Can we please see some proper 'in game' video, the movie trailers are nice but I want to see some bombs dropping and ground explosions, and maybe let us hear the sounds?? Come on Oleg sell your game to us. :confused:

It seems that oleg doesnt have the same approach of a flight sim ...
It looks like an influent member of the dev team imposes his romatocis vieuw of CFS by some glamour rose clouds and hasy skies ... because his heart is under the influence of some russian beauty (the one we saw already with small xxxx like mosquito bites ;---)


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