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Gee, the next thing you know we will be getting some VTOL paper napkin design for the Luftwaffe.

Oh... Wait....

:rolleyes:

A 190 WITH A TORPEDO!Now that scared me.

FW-190 looked to carry everything.I wouldn´t get impressed if they had napalms and nukes.
They even had panzerfausts!

BTW Xilon,what is that thing in second image?

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Originally Posted by Xilon_x (Post 165421)

has nothing to do and if 'relevant or not relevant.
I think any historical fact can also not relevant 'to be important and could change history.
To many people it is convenient for the sake of publicity hide the arguments are not relevant.
I think it's also a question of respect of the nations that you do not feel irrelevant.
These nations participated in the second World War and 'important to include ALL.
ALSO IMPORTANT FOR ISSUE OF SALE OF PRODUCT SOW or il-2 Otherwise, we risk a decline in sales.

I get what you're saying but its not reasonable to model or add every single little detail into the game. Especially when there are areas of the game that could better use the efforts. It's not a matter of respect at all. It's a matter of limited time and resources being put into free addons by volunteer effort only (Team Daidalos). Storm of War is much more limited in scope historically and it's only reasonable to include a couple of nations into the product.

Great respect, much more than any other game ever, has been paid. There is enough room that if you wanted to simulate another nation in the war you could do so with a little work and some ingenuity with some skins.

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Originally Posted by csThor (Post 165407)

Hi dfrog. I hope you don't mind me cherry-picking some issues.

I have been thinking about adding a few more relevant nations, anyway, but so far other projects have taken over my time.

Bulgaria - What for? The country's armed forces did not take part in the war against the USSR and we have no maps depicting their home defense.
[...]
Croatia (axis) - Same as Bulgaria. What for? There were two squadrons flying under german control (15.(kroat)/JG 52 and 15.(kroat)/KG 2) which could be added but lacking a map and looking at the native croatian effort it's hardly a relevant nation to be added.

[...]

Additionally an Allied Romania (post August 1944) and South Africa would make sense to be added as new nations.

If you don't mind, I would like to give an opinion on your comment. Just to note, I've shortened the quote just to be more precise and focus on the thing's I'll elaborate on. To be honest, it's entirely valid.

There has been no Balkans map and, as far as I know, there currently aren't plans for any. Which is a shame. It's a theater of war that's been heavily overlooked. While Bulgaria did not take part in the invasion of the USSR (pleasantly surprised you're aware of that fact, as most Westerns don't seem to be) the home defense campaign against the 15th USAAF was a large enough affair that involved thousands of planes over the course of an entire year. Plus, the VnVV (Bulgarian His Majesty's Air Forces) were involved in other operations too - anti-partisan, escorting Axis convoys and protecting the Bulgarian coast against Soviet submarines and surface ships and reccon flights over the White/Aegean Sea and Medditerrenean.

Lastly, while I don't know if it'll be a great incentive, but Il-2 does have a strong fanbase here (I'm a Bulgarian national) and many people are still hoping that there would be at least some sort of representation of the theater and our air force - I'm still keeping fingers crossed for a TD Balkans map.... ;)

One that would also be very welcomed by Romanians, I'm sure - after all, the main target of the 15th AF in the Balkans wasn't Sofia, or even Bucharest, but the Ploesti oil refineries.

The above is valid about Croatia; but not only there's enough historic potential for campaigns, but I believe there's a fantastic modded map at an advanced stage of completion.

Don't take this as intended to be offensive in any way, I greatly respect your work and I'm looking forward to the patches. But I'd like to point out that branching out, expanding etc. the sim would not be in any way pointless, or much less degrading, to the contrary.

http://i35.tinypic.com/1z6sgbb.jpg
A closeup photo of the small joystick used
to control the X-4 in flight. An elbow rest was
also provided for the pilot on the starboard side
of the cockpit to allow better control and comfort
while guiding the X-4.
http://i38.tinypic.com/2d9xrh5.jpg
http://i37.tinypic.com/a9lpog.jpg
Werfegranate please loock this link.
http://www.zweiterweltkrieg.org/phpB...t&sd=a&start=0

http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e2...-190/a2g_5.jpg
Dear Bf110
that is not atomic bomb but werfegranate 280mm to fw190f for destroy T34 sovietik Tank

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Axis_powers

pleace ICEFIRE loock whit attenction the list
first Axis Nation partecipating at WW2 in order of important Nation:
GERMANY
ITALY
JAPAN
HUNGARY
ROMANIA
BULGARIA
the rest of axis nation have minor revelance is secondary nation.

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Originally Posted by Xilon_x (Post 165610)

Um, no.

GERMANY
JAPAN
ITALY (perhaps?)
...

Or if you were Chinese etc:

JAPAN
...

AndyWest i am Italian and you ofend me.
Please AndyWest read a story and learn and study the politic.
Italia have to the flag the simbol of crox Italia have the king remember?
Savoia family?
the story of italia is old also old is all EUROPA.
remember ROMAN EMPEROR?
ok ok
AndyWest i ignore you i close this question you ofend me and my nation story and importance.

German
Italy
Japan

you is stupid
German
Japan
Italy

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VRjjSYF1G5k

this is the Quenn of Italy
from MONTENEGRO.
AndyWest ITALY 1940 not is democratic but EMPIRE ITALY.

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