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Originally Posted by BlitzPig_fox (Post 271082)

But you see that is not the truth, specially when the stock leaves the mill @ $15 per lin ft. They pays for a service and expect to get their monies worth and Be Sure if they are not satisified I wasted my time there as work is mostly done thru referrals in certain circles.

If the dev's have thin skin mebbe they should be doin sumthin else ... writin reviews might pay their bills.

Yes, it is the truth. There is no one else producing WW2 flight sims. We have no where else to go (picture Richard Gere). That is why people are willing to accept less than ideal releases. If there was no one else doing custom finish work, then your customers would be more willing to live with poor service.

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Originally Posted by Les (Post 270994)

Sorry, to you and the spectators who seem to enjoy this sort of stuff, but I'm just going to dismiss all that, feel free to see it as proof that you're correct and justified or however you want to see it, but this is the exact reason I don't usually post in these sort of threads. I'm tempted to get into the cut and paste thing, and there are counter-points to what you're saying, but you've just proven, to me anyway, there's nothing I could say that you yourself wouldn't outright dismiss or re-interpret to suit your preferred point of view. Sorry if my opinions offended you in some way and that you feel so hard-done-by, hope it all works out for you in the end.

It's OK for you to lose an argument Les but there's no need to be such a fanny about it, especially considering how arrogant and condescending you were when you thought you had the upper hand. Never mind though. In summary:

http://www.gameinformer.com/cfs-file...2D00_550x0.png

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Originally Posted by Kano_Magnus (Post 271104)

Congratulations.

Hi all,

The OP has a very valid point to make.

There are far too many here who take it personally if the sim doesn't meet all their expectations. They wail and cry as if they had been atacked in the street and had their wallet and watch stolen. And had a punch on the nose.

Grow up. See the bigger picture.

Have faith.

Best Regards,
MB_Avro.

I am buying a second copy and will give it to a random person just because I'm that kind of guy.

And I hope the guys developing this become so filthy rich from it they have others carrying their luggage whenever they travel and chicks every where.

I hope they are like this.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-vHT6b7u1_Y

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Originally Posted by *Buzzsaw* (Post 270252)

Salute

If you haven't seen them already, the reviews in German gaming magazines, on Gamespot and PC Gamer have panned the game.

Maybe those reviews were deserved, but the fact is, if this game goes under, no one is going to suffer but us flight simmers.

All those posters on these boards who I see whining and complaining better understand something:

If this game goes under, you will have nothing to do but whine. No game, no development, NOTHING.

The only smart thing to do at this point is to support the developers, give them POSITIVE feedback on issues.

Don't harp on issues which have been mentioned a hundred times, there is no point.

Unless you WANT the game to fail.

I personally have bought a copy online, and will be buying another hard copy in the stores when it arrives.

DO NOT KID YOURSELF. THIS GAME IS ON THE EDGE.

what a complete load of bollocks.

no, we support what DESERVES support, not blindly. BLIND support does not help Us, and it definitely does not help the developer.

I am happy to laud the things that are good, but i will most definitely also apply equal attention to what is bad.

Creating a false cloud of positive PR is dishonest.

The good things of this flight sim are not false, nobody has said that we should make propaganda. Just try to look on the bright side of this sim, report issues constructively if you have to and as you might have noticed it is working out ( FFB, yes! ), and I am a happy panda.

Kano, when is the victory parade?

If you release a bad game, why should you not suffer the consequances? IL2 CoD is a bad bad game. Released MONTHS before it was finished, and took way too long to develop. Why should jo-public pay to have it fixed?

The thing is, bad games are released all the time. Reviews can tank them, and should. Never reward a bad game, or it will encourage MORE bad games. Oleg and his team are NOT new to this flight sim gig. They have released 5? sims. Whats there excuse this time? Its not like they didnt know better. Its not like they didnt have enough time. So why was this game so amazingly bad at launch?

Also, your forgetting supply and demand. If IL2 CoD tanks, someone will move in to make a supply for the demand. Its happened over and over, and will happen again. SWOTL? Dynamix? Air Warrior? Janes? All have gone, with new comers to replace them. Im sure when the Air Warrior servers were shut down, similar cry's were heard of "support the team or we all dies!!!". But look what we have now? Someone saw a demand, and supplied it.

Just like any company, product, or whatever, I will buy it AFTER its finished, NOT before. If I buy a new car and its not working, I take it back. If I buy a new computer and its not working, I take it back. If I buy a new computer game, and its not working, why would I not take it back? If I know in advanced that something is not working as advertised, why should I buy it?

Gibbage, you should not buy the game. You also should not expect anyone in here to give a crap that you're not buying the game.