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Theres an Elephant in this room.
The plain fact is this The Mk1a should have the rotol prop Instead spitty flyers have to put up with that godawful 1st gear/ 5th gear prop. Or fly the Hurricane As present FM the Mk1a is 30mph slower and doesnt climb as well as the rotol Hurricane But the Hurricane roll rate is terrible 360* roll takes 2 secs longer than the spitfire,and the spitfire rolls slower than the me109 anyway. So with slower top speed, poorer climb,slower dive, inferior roll rate, poorer guns, lots less amunition and that infernal neg g cutout combined with the 109`s easier controlability in turns is it any surprise red players want to fly the Mk1I on the servers ? Especially since the blueboys have some new toys. But the MkII is 60 mph faster than the Mk1a. So what is really needed is a MK1a with a rotol prop. The speeds I quote are from a very quick test in mission. straight and level @ 6500 ft Mk1a 230mph Rotol Hurri 260mph MkII 290mph. This admittedly quick test is obviously not entirely accurate, but feel about right from my time playing online. |
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i want the flight models as accurate as possible. ...even if it would result in a disadvantage for me. i think in real life,...the battle of britain had pretty equal oponents on both sides.all i have read states that it was mainly the skill of the pilot that effected the outcome of a fight.so give us the proper performances for all planes please |
Well said Osprey.
BTW long before the game was even released our lads decided to fly the Hurricane, as it was the aircraft that really won the Battle of Britain. When I'm online the only aircraft you see me in will be the Rotol Hurricane, at least until we get a flyable Gladiator or CR 42. I would like to pop over to one of the evaluation units and nick one of the Tomahawks that were destined for France though... |
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I am sry Osp but all of the above are myth hence wrong. It has been discussed and explained all over and over - not by me but by historians. Regarding weights, do you really think that a modern design such as was the 109 was heavier than a tube and framework Hurri or an heavy riveted with a thousands of bulkheads Spit ? That's were we hve to understand how braves and well commanded was the BoB RAF's men. The odds were clearly in favor of the brutal Hitler's regime but they have prevailed. We hve the chance to re-enact those glory days for our own pleasures without any fear of blood, sweet and tears being shed. I wonder why some still have to turn history upside down. As there is no diff btw a blue player and a red player If you want to fly the better fighter in the fray of that very specific times that's plain simple SWITCH to BLUE ! PS: As I ave said alrdy IMHO the only good FM btw the Hurri, 109 and spits are the Hurri and the 109. That wld be a non-sense to start modifying both their FM to fit that of the surreal Spits |
CloD is now attracting more on-line players which is welcomed by all.
The one positive I see from the introduction of the Mk2 Spit is that it created controversy and highlighted the problems of the underperfoming ac. Its a shame that it ends up being divisive but in a way that may help to get this issue resolved. I really hope that the Russian forums are having this same argument and that Luthier and his team are considering a fix as a priority. We now have a title that works reasonably well in SP, attracting more players on MP but well and truly stuffed with undermodelled (or incorrectly) modelled ac. How difficult would it be to at least add the correct prop to a Mk1a and get that out in the next official patch? |
This is wrong. pls see the above.
To reach max perfs you need to fight hard on your aircraft ctrls and eng management. It might take some time to be pro-efficient but that the way it is [was :rolleyes:] and I find that great. |
To all of you guys. I know the FM´s of Spit Ia and hurri are just as messed as the one of the 109. My only concern is that the spit IIa outclasses the 109 to a degree that makes flying for the blue team totally pointleass except when you are a masochistic person that likes to get banged.
I know people online that do VERY well in their hurricane against the 109. I mean fighting a good hurri pilot in a 109 on even energylevels is a real challenge for a good 109 pilot. Each side has its strengths wich, when used properly, lead you to a victory. I also admit that the spit Ia is too slow but the Spit IIa just makes it totally pointless. So i dont say nerf it or anything. I just say use a planecombo that actually works well in multiplayer. Nothing else, Winger PS: And to 1C i say: Please fix those 109s, spitfire Is and were all good. |
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Who is experienced in on-line flying may not say sincerely that Spit IIa is an identical category with any of the other airplanes. Because of this, it should be ignored on the serious servers. :rolleyes: |
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JD AKA_MattE |
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The lamest part of this discussion is not the fact that the Spit II is overmodeld, (which it is) It is that some on this thread think this is a great opportunity to talk out of their a$$ in terms of the performance differences of these aircraft and whether the Spit II should be part of this time frame (which it should). Hence the ONGOING SpitfireUFO vs. Luffiewiner argument continues. How about just shut up and fly. JD AKA_MattE |
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