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ATAG_Dutch 11-27-2010 01:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Skoshi Tiger (Post 201105)
Do all philosophers have an 'S' in them?

Emmanuel Kant was a real pissant who was very rarely stable,
Eidegger, Eidegger was a boozin' beggar who could drink you under the table,
David Hulme could out-consume Schauffenheur and Hegel,
And Lichtenstein was a beery swine who was just as sloshed as Schleigel.


And apparently Socrates was a bugger when pissed.

So not all of them. Plato is another.

My opinion, for what it's worth, is that we fly this particular flight sim to simulate not just combat flight, but also historical events of the past.
We may even yearn to have been involved at the time, or wonder whether we'd've been capable of the feats and achievements of our respective forebears.

Or simply wonder what it would have been like to fly some wonderful machinery for 'the other side'.

This doesn't imply that all Blue team members are closet Nazis or potentially sadistic Imperialist Samurai, or that all Red team members are closet Communists or British Empire snobs or gun-toting Yankee Rednecks. Just that they'd like to find out what it was like to fly for them.

As far as political affiliations are concerned, depending on where you were born, you'd more than likely have been steeped in your contemporary National culture like the rest of your generation and therefore a choice of allegiance would have been pretty much closed to you. You may even have agreed with most if not all of it's attitudes and philosophies.

What I do know, is that when 'Storm of War/Cliffs of Dover/What-Ho Fritz, and Tally-Ho!' does get released, you won't see me in a 109.:grin:

Richie 11-27-2010 01:27 PM

You're making me sad LOL. Those were the good old days for sure. It's such a same that The Maddox team doesn't have the money to market IL-2 like Microsoft does. I bet Combat Flight Simulator 3 out sells IL-2 by 100 to 1 and IL-2 is ten times the game CFS3 is.

moilami 11-27-2010 01:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Dutch_851 (Post 201192)
What I do know, is that when Storm of War/Cliffs of Dover/What-Ho, Fritz and Tally-Ho! does get released, you won't see me in a 109.:grin:

lol'd. HARD! :lol:

Richie 11-27-2010 01:55 PM

I think it will be a lot like IL-2 was in 2001. Things will be very new and exciting again. I think I'll go on a bender for a day or so lol. After all..all the old hands have been waiting six years for this.

moilami 11-27-2010 03:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Dutch_851 (Post 201192)

As far as political affiliations are concerned, depending on where you were born, you'd more than likely have been steeped in your contemporary National culture like the rest of your generation and therefore a choice of allegiance would have been pretty much closed to you. You may even have agreed with most if not all of it's attitudes and philosophies.

I am very glad someone understands stuff. Many would simply refuse to understand that because their ego is built on illusions of racial, national, and ethical supremacy which I like to call simply "holier than thou" hallusination. Like this: "No, I am not like Iraqies. I am $holier_than_thou."

We people are very similar around the world. What makes us "different" is the culture which has shaped us.

Theshark888 11-27-2010 03:33 PM

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Originally Posted by moilami (Post 201162)
But what is hilarious is how that "homeland security" makes the country feel more insecure, the opposite it should be doing :lol: Anyway enough of politics.

It has been said before, we have finally caught up with the rest of the world concerning airport security. No police state here in the USA. No need to sleep with a gun under your pillow. No one is feeling insecure about going through a body scanner except for some paranoid minority. This is all "fringe" talk and more ammo to keep the Euros/Canadians busy with more "stupid" American talk. :grin: Oh yea, I'll add the obligatory "Enough of politics.":grin:

As for IL2, it is fun to fly for any side, just to try out the different aircraft. If you read anything more into this, you may be taking it a bit too far. This is a computer game and not a real life simulator/time-machine that alllows you to fufill your fantasies or change the past.

moilami 11-27-2010 03:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Theshark888 (Post 201212)
It has been said before, we have finally caught up with the rest of the world concerning airport security. No police state here in the USA. No need to sleep with a gun under your pillow. No one is feeling insecure about going through a body scanner except for some paranoid minority. This is all "fringe" talk and more ammo to keep the Euros/Canadians busy with more "stupid" American talk. :grin: Oh yea, I'll add the obligatory "Enough of politics.":grin:

NOOOO! Body scannerz stealz ur energy! :lol:

BadAim 11-27-2010 04:06 PM

Besides all of that the one we really need to be afraid of is Dan Bernanke.

Theshark888 11-27-2010 07:10 PM

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Originally Posted by BadAim (Post 201221)
Besides all of that the one we really need to be afraid of is Dan Bernanke.

Or The New World Order. LOL:-P:-P:-P

SlipBall 11-27-2010 07:22 PM

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Originally Posted by BadAim (Post 201221)
Besides all of that the one we really need to be afraid of is Dan Bernanke.

and Goldman Sachs


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