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draux 02-13-2010 08:52 PM

Whats with all the pompous PC gamers all of a sudden? You guys just here to pour salt in our wounds or what? The forum for the version that has turning wheels is just one down from this one. You might find more people that care there.

imnotgeoff 02-13-2010 08:56 PM

hopefully the door will hit you on the way out

PantherAttack2 02-13-2010 09:28 PM

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Originally Posted by imnotgeoff (Post 143483)
hopefully the door will hit you on the way out

Not sure who you are directing that at.

juz1 02-13-2010 10:45 PM

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Originally Posted by zg26 (Post 143480)
my original point is that il2 bop has sullied the il2 brand. I never directly compared the games. The reason i had such high hopes for bop (and indeed bought it without even considering 'heroes over europe') was because of the reputation of the il-2 series. Now because i feel i've been let down by bop it reflects on the whole brand. They can't have it both ways and trade on their brand for sales (as in " famous title comes to consoles") and then say oh no thats nothing to do with their brand when it turns out to be a turd.

Why do you think cadbury have trademarked their color of purple for chocolate packaging? Why do walt disney suits scour the world looking for unlicensed images of mickey mouse in kids playgrounds?

qft!

Houndstone Hawk 02-14-2010 12:39 AM

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Originally Posted by juz1 (Post 143470)
What do you mean *insert console version of sim game here* is anything like *insert PC version of sim game here*?

The console game is just a top down, pub coin op clone and the PC game is the second coming of Christ (who looks Russian, I swear!).

I'm not discussing this with people that generalise numerical data...

You all massively need to know I'm off to self-aggrandise with a Perry Como tribute Sciffle/Ragga 4 piece synth progressive-rock outfit, I'm on wagon wheels me!



Who needs screaming modern warfail teens when there's such wonderful pomposity to be had here :rolleyes:...

Now if you'll excuse me I'm going to pointlessly let you know I'm off to count the bloated,undigested sultanas in my daughters nappy....hey look, 5 this morning!

LOL. I know that was aimed at me & I believe ppl here have me wrong with this so-called pompous attitude toward PC games but when an attack is that well written & so funny, I can't do nothing other than praise you for your original wordage, That did nake me laugh. :grin:

Houndstone Hawk 02-14-2010 12:43 AM

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Originally Posted by PantherAttack2 (Post 143488)
Not sure who you are directing that at.

Originally Posted by imnotgeoff
hopefully the door will hit you on the way out



Was aimed at me.

PantherAttack2 02-14-2010 12:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Houndstone Hawk (Post 143503)
Originally Posted by imnotgeoff
hopefully the door will hit you on the way out



Was aimed at me.

Well from what I know you have no intentions of leaving, so I guess that's not going to happen.

Robotic Pope 02-14-2010 01:25 AM

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Originally Posted by zg26 (Post 143480)
My original point is that Il2 BOP has sullied the Il2 brand. I never directly compared the games. The reason I had such high hopes for BOP (and indeed bought it without even considering 'Heroes over Europe') was because of the reputation of the Il-2 series. Now because I feel I've been let down by BOP it reflects on the whole brand. They can't have it both ways and trade on their brand for sales (as in " Famous title comes to consoles") and then say oh no thats nothing to do with their brand when it turns out to be a turd.

Why do you think Cadbury have trademarked their color of purple for chocolate packaging? Why do Walt Disney suits scour the world looking for unlicensed images of mickey mouse in kids playgrounds?

I think you are forgeting that it is the Publisher 505 games that has caused this by not allowing the devs to continue to work on improving the game. BoP is a solid game that could have been added to and improved ten fold if the devs were given the green light. Sadly on console every update costs money and 505 are cheap arses. As Houndstone has shown us in videos the PC version of BoP is being updated and improved very regularly to become an exellent game just like the original IL-2 on PC. This proves BoP is not a "turd" and did not sully the brand, 505 did that by themselves.

Can you imagine how bad the original IL-2 Stumovik on PC would have looked if it was never once updated from the original code? And the brand certainly wouldn't have become what it is today.

Now its silly to say Il-2 1946 and BoP can't be compared because you can compare anything you lke together. Let me compare the two quickly how I see it.

1946 - A far more technical experierence and a lot more in depth, a true simulator for enthusiasts that has been constantly worked on and improved by many, many dedicated people.

BoP/WoP - A more bare bones title but still one that is very enjoyable for most people thanks to different skill modes. disposes of more technical things like engine management in favour of a more cinematic aproch than 1946 and has excelent graphics being a much newer game. Like any new game BoP had bugs, these unfortunatly were unable to be fixed. But with continued support WoP on PC has fixed this and also has the posibilty of adding to this some aspects of 1946 if that is what people want or more of the same.


SoW - What the hell i'm comparing this too seeing my bringing it up started all this ;) SoW at first will be like a brand new version of the original IL-2 which means it will be nothing like as big as 1946. But the basic bones of the Sim will be made of pure gold which will last for many years, over which time the game will flesh out and grow and grow untill it is a massive golden giant of epicness :cool:

Robotic Pope 02-14-2010 01:33 AM

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Originally Posted by SEE (Post 143269)
I went on Xbox live purely for this title, No patch but I have met so many fantastic peeps all over Europe and the USA playing Xbox BOP and that more than makes up for the disappointment. Great bunch of guys and we all enjoy the game. No patch won't stop us playing I'm sure.

So True! I am great :-P

lol seriously though you are right. Ive never played another game on xbox live where almost everyone you meet is a nice person like on BoP. Its a pleasure to fly with you guys :)

Houndstone Hawk 02-14-2010 01:43 AM

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Originally Posted by PantherAttack2 (Post 143505)
Well from what I know you have no intentions of leaving, so I guess that's not going to happen.

Hey listen. If my opinions offend you so much then I'm sorry for you. I've only been staying around here to share my video work with you all but other than some mighty fine comments from some very nice forum users here, I've had nothing but snubbery & even jibes just because they don't portray your BIRDS of prey (& yes I do also post them to the 1c IL-2 site aswell as the WoP site.

Want me & opinions elsewhere? No problems. I'll take the vids down too for you.

Wanting virtual doors to hit me on the way out? Not nice atall really but there you go. Only makes the person in question sound like a bit of a jerk off.


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