Originally Posted by zapatista (Post 452565)

except of course that on the current ATAG server (which is only important in this discussion because it is the only major CoD server that has been running for a number of months so that is where new players that want to try a server are likely to go) there is no decent AA at these forward allied airfields, and no sirens warning of camping vultures when you spawn there, and additional it is the permanent same fake-real air quake scenario every day at those airfields, that's what makes it boring and fake

in your above historical example, just pretend there was no AA present, and the same thing happened day in day out, with the germans looking at each other in amazement "ahh ze brittish they are so smart, every day now they come and bomb us and we are alwayz completely zurprised by them, ze AA guys are having a nap unt ze air tower guys have gone to ze pub unt forgot to set ze alarms, these clever british always seem to know this ahead of time and just keep shooting up our planes on ze ground, maybe zey vil even vin ze war like this"

realistic ? err nope !

Originally Posted by Volksieg (Post 452566)

Vulching is WAR.

This is a simulation of war.

It is very frustrating being Vulched but, as it is a simulation of a war, I'm fairly sure dying or losing a war and having your country invaded is a bit of an inconvenience also. :D

Originally Posted by zapatista (Post 452574)

i dont think anybody is complaining about somebody trying to attack a normally functioning and well defended airfield (as those brittish coastal bases were in that time period), the legitimate complaint is about some online servers being the equivalent of air quake servers tailor made for point whores and then calling themselves "full real"

Originally Posted by senseispcc (Post 452568)

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The Allies with their offensive tactics did do it sometime until the cost was to expensive due to the “flack” or the defensive patrols above such airfields (expl.ME262/FW190d9).

Originally Posted by senseispcc (Post 452568)

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But this is a game.....Never forget this is a game.

Originally Posted by zapatista (Post 452574)

i dont think anybody is complaining about somebody trying to attack a normally functioning and well defended airfield (as those brittish coastal bases were in that time period), the legitimate complaint is about some online servers being the equivalent of air quake servers tailor made for point whores and then calling themselves "full real"

Originally Posted by ATAG_Bliss (Post 452572)

There's literally thousands of AAA on our missions. If you'd do some research instead of just blabbing off the mouth about stuff you don't know about, you'd also realize there's been many complaints about the sheer number of AAA/Flak we do have. (AKA - people getting shot down by them) The effectiveness of the AAA (which we have improved heavily over default by how we place them and what units) is not our fault. And if you knew anything about the FMB or anything about missions in the online world, you'd also know that airfield sirens do not work and have never worked since IL2COD was released.

Can't wait to see your realistic perfect mission rotations that magically have all the stuff working in game that is broken. Please enlighten us oh mighty keyboard hero..

Originally Posted by ATAG_Doc (Post 452577)

And you'd have ATAG change it to suit your desires?

Originally Posted by zapatista (Post 452585)

since you make a sensible civilized statement that addresses one of the issues under discussion, i'll give you the courtesy of doing the same :)

there are multiple solutions possible to the vulching issue which is currently totally disproportionate to historical events. as an initial practical step, any of those brittish coastal airbases need to have some form of effective defense that prevents the fake current situation where vultures can camp unchallenged over certain airbases perpetually ( as was clearly not the case historically)

if there is currently no working air raid sirens, then the volume of flak and light AA guns going of at an airbase you spawn to will give enough warning (and increase the risk for those trying to attack them)

Originally Posted by ATAG_Bliss (Post 452572)

There's literally thousands of AAA on our missions. If you'd do some research instead of just blabbing off the mouth about stuff you don't know about, you'd also realize there's been many complaints about the sheer number of AAA/Flak we do have. (AKA - people getting shot down by them) The effectiveness of the AAA (which we have improved heavily over default by how we place them and what units) is not our fault. And if you knew anything about the FMB or anything about missions in the online world, you'd also know that airfield sirens do not work and have never worked since IL2COD was released.

Can't wait to see your realistic perfect mission rotations that magically have all the stuff working in game that is broken. Please enlighten us oh mighty keyboard hero..