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Bewolf 06-15-2012 11:03 AM

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Originally Posted by swiss (Post 435118)
Doesn't matter, given the fact we don't have alternatives.

...and don't even consider mentioning the prius.

Read the thread, swiss. This debate was about the "development" of alternatives for exactly the reasons cited above.

In regards to Bliss still lacking an answer:

http://www.sciencephoto.com/image/23...alloon-SPL.jpg

'nough said.

ATAG_Bliss 06-15-2012 11:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Bewolf (Post 435122)
Read the thread, swiss. This debate was about the "development" of alternatives for exactly the reasons cited above.

In regards to Bliss still lacking an answer:

http://www.sciencephoto.com/image/23...alloon-SPL.jpg

'nough said.

You got me. I know absolutely nothing about engines. :rolleyes:

Osprey 06-15-2012 11:20 AM

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Originally Posted by ATAG_Bliss (Post 435081)
I use the truck to pull/haul anything from my race car to farm equipment. 10-30k pounds. You're not gonna do that with a car. But 20mpg for the size and weight is really good. I understand karma. Trust me, I'm never the instigator.

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Over here we leave that for the truckers and farmers ;)

In fact you should be cheering for alternatives. Sounds like you need torque and no motor produces more torque than electric - way way more than diesel. You know those big diesel locomotives for pulling freight? The engine only drives a generator and not the wheels. That 'leccy gets piped straight to multiple motors on the wheels, and no gearing.

Many of the electric cars now are using this approach, batteries supplemented by small petrol motors generating electricity by running at their best power when required. Never driven one but it apparently sounds weird accelerating with the rpm constant.

Bewolf 06-15-2012 11:37 AM

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Originally Posted by ATAG_Bliss (Post 435123)
You got me. I know absolutely nothing about engines. :rolleyes:

Nothing at least of any substance but "I know about engines and you do not!"
....yet.

raaaid 06-15-2012 12:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bewolf (Post 435112)
Please, by all means, I am bowing to your expert knowledge. Enlighten me, what is the energy effiency of a regular combustion engine?

18%

electric 90%*karnot elecric factory40%=40%eficiency globally

18% eficiency of petrofuels cars and 40% electric vars

ACE-OF-ACES 06-15-2012 01:42 PM

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Originally Posted by ATAG_Bliss (Post 435056)
You are the definition of a hypocrite and your holier than thou attitude is laughable.

Bingo

MadBlaster 06-15-2012 02:40 PM

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Originally Posted by ATAG_Bliss (Post 435026)
Notice how the pistons were hitting the valves. Hilarious to find out that a Shelby Cobra 5.4 32v valve springs not only fit perfectly on this Navistar diesel, but also give enough seat pressure to stop the floating at high RPM. Retainers, keepers, etc., all matched up perfectly lol.

did you swap your camshaft?

Kongo-Otto 06-15-2012 02:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by raaaid (Post 435140)
18%

electric 90%*karnot elecric factory40%=40%eficiency globally

18% eficiency of petrofuels cars and 40% electric vars

¿Habla inglés?
Parla inglese?
Sprechen sie Englisch?
Do you speak english?
Parlez-vous anglais?
If not go and learn it! plonker!
:rolleyes:

raaaid 06-15-2012 03:30 PM

oh im learning my studied were based on feminist literature and why is wrong to be a man but im learning the language now ;)

the term plonker started out as a reference to someone who was forever drunk on cheap wine (cheap wine is nicknamed plonk)

edit:

i meant that globally electric cars have an eficiency of 40% while combustion engine 18%

edit:

but well this is political nonsense im brainwashed

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CwUgK2Vy_kk

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also the real reason cause the electric car is supressed is that they are very silent, so to not make them dangerous IT WOULD BE MANDATORY GO WITH VERY LOUD MUSIC

if the hippies acore that point the end of the world will be a comune of hippies dressed in psicodelic clothes and playing pink floyd at full volume

Kurfürst 06-15-2012 05:04 PM

Diesel is for people having a secret fetish for driving a tractor anyways.


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