Yes, Asus MB. I will see how it goes - should have it on Thursday.

The Saitek are $115 and the CH $105 cant decide yet.

Hey Chivas it's been a while!

So you like MSFF2 better than Warthog? What happened to your Warthog setup?

Hey road...good ta cya

The Warthog was a beautiful peice of kit, and the ball joint (non gimbal system) was exceptionally smooth. Except while traveling thru center where there was a considerable change in force required. I also had some flaky buttons on the throttle so I descided to send it back and maybe purchase another in a year or so if they update the stick.

Unfortunately I still can't find a joystick better than the MSFF2, combined with the Cougar throttle and Saitek Pro rudders.

Yes I meant without problems, and yes you can use them without the software. The rudders are well made, but I wouldn't recommend an X52 joystick. Your best option is a MSFF2 which you can still pickup new on ebay, barring that the CH products are well built and will last forever.

There are some Microsoft SideWinder Precision 2 Joystick for USB Port on ebay ranging for 9 dollars and 39 dollars used and I think a couple of new ones ranging from 75 to 150 dollars.

Im convinced to buy the CH Combatstick,was about to buy it yesterday but Im gonna wait till friday when I get paid.

Can somebody explain to me why the MSFF2 is beter then the Logitech G940?

I see them as the only 2 forcefeedback options.

Optical sensors which almost don't wear at all over time - and the fact that people are still using them after ~10 years. If that isn't a testament to its quality I don't know what is. Not to mention that it is very precise (not on the Warthog and moded Cougar level but still very accurate).

G940 pots start to wear under a year, or so people say. Then there are other issues with it - bad cabling inside the throttle section (results in spiking), reversal bug (albeit removed but only for the stick, all other trim tabs & rudder pedals still have it), etc...

A real shame, Logitech could have had the best all around stick/HOTAS/system out there but they failed in doing so.

Better for... IL2.
Could be due to some driver issue as well - game and stick have roughly the same age.
Expect your G940 to work better in CoD.


I just bought a used FF2, should arrive tomorrow. I wonder how I'll like it.

Thrustmaster: "Our joystick is metal, precision made, costs a fortune, but we still use some of the cheapest parts possible just to save $3.00 a unit".

Logitech: "We give you the whole deal, plus Force-feedback! Only we don't do any manner of in-depth or long-term testing, plus we use cheap pots! Did we mention we only update our software every 4 years?"

Saitek: "We're the joystick equivalent of Russian Roulette! Come on and take a chance! Every 10th customer is a winner!"

CH: "Yes! We're still in business. Our rudder pedals might make you infertile and our product line looks like a cataloge from 1995, but we make quality stuff."