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Dano 11-26-2011 03:53 PM

So nice to see the same old vulching :(

There were no less than three, possibly four 109's vulching a single base today, fun times.

And they wonder why new fliers don't last long...

Robo. 11-26-2011 05:03 PM

I don't think Dano was complaining - he only stated what there is a problem with that (which is true) and that some new chaps won't stay long because of that.

I am not bothered all that much, although it sort of spoils the game. You see Blue side being in majority most of the time (my experience at least, that's why I join red most of the time). Even with having bigger numbers than RAF you often find 4-6 Emils strafing the airfields at Hawkinge (most of the time), Limpne (very often) and Manston (sometimes). I understand that and it's OK, but there is quite a few pilots not doing anything else (alambash, -=A=- and other Russian guys etc). I quite like to see 110 pilots doing their job, but 109 is superior machine anyway and there is no need getting kills this way. That said I am ruthless killer and in my opinion, everything is a target, fair enough for me.

It's that as well as game's not very smart way of giving credit for the kills and the fact that RAF needs to warm up engines and LW does not.

Saying that, I really don't like being 'killed' on the ground by some horny noob 4 times in a row no matter where I spawn and I am really thinking about flying else or not flying at all when I see this happening.

Just my opinion and no, I am not complaining - vulchers are great targets as they can't fight otherwise.

ATAG_Snapper 11-26-2011 05:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dano (Post 364664)
So nice to see the same old vulching :(

There were no less than three, possibly four 109's vulching a single base today, fun times.

And they wonder why new fliers don't last long...

Basically, if it happened in the Battle of Britain, it can happen on the ATAG server. Frequently you'll find 109's and 110's on Jabo missions hitting the close airfields like Hawkinge and Lympne looking for "easy meat". Anyone who can trundle a Spit or Hurricane out of there during a low level raid and best one of these marauders gets my admiration. OTOH, as CWMV alluded to, by design there are alternative airfields to spawn at (Manston, Ramsgate, Canterbury, etc) which are relatively quiet. Here you can warm up properly, take off and gain sufficient altitude (ie. energy) to swarm Hawkinge and throw the lot of 'em out!

Teamspeak is a real boon here, since you can very quickly form a quick flight of three or four Spits and/or Hurricanes to wreak holy vengeance. Alternatively, you can decide to head across the Channel as a group at 12 Angels or so and.....

Personally, I've been spawning at Manston/Ramsgate with one or two others, climbing to 15K or so, and monitoring the chat/radar window for enemy bomber formations coming over. Although they're usually AI (not always!), these bomber formations are usually escorted by human-flown 109's.....and the fun begins. :)

The Channel map on the ATAG server is huge, so there is no obligation on anyone's part to be subjected to an "Airquake" scenario due to a lack of alternate airfields to spawn at. Every player is encouraged (as the air controllers did in 1940) to assess the air combat situation, then take whatever initiative you feel will give you best tactical advantage. Tally ho, mates!

SEE 11-26-2011 05:17 PM

Use the inland bases! There are players who unfortunately see vulching as the best way to have Stats that flatter to decieve. Vulching is allowed but unfortunately it becomes the only way for some and then problems arise.

JG52Uther 11-26-2011 05:20 PM

I've deleted a couple of posts. Think before you post please.

Dano 11-26-2011 09:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JG52Uther (Post 364690)
I've deleted a couple of posts. Think before you post please.

Yes, but you happily continue to let my post get trashed by people assuming things.

I was not being vulched, I'm quite capable of selecting an alternative base, maybe if people didn't automaticaly assume that it was a complaint rather than an observation and refrain from stating the bloody obvious it I'd have responded better.

Dano 11-26-2011 09:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CWMV (Post 364665)
Then spawn somewhere else. If you want a "fair" fight go to another server.
Paging snapper...

Don't make assumptions.

ATAG_Bliss 11-27-2011 12:26 AM

There's been some improvements for the AAA at the close fields. Be warned ;)

CWMV 11-27-2011 12:32 AM

Oh crud...

ATAG_Bliss 11-27-2011 12:59 AM

Haha, I don't think so ;)


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