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badaboom 02-24-2012 02:53 PM

Tank You!!! No Really,Tanks a lot!!!! :)

VO101_Tom 02-24-2012 02:53 PM

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Originally Posted by speculum jockey (Post 393745)
So the people who are working on the tanks, work for free? They don't need to occupy a space in the office? They don't need to use an office computer?

Because what they are doing, the resources they are using right now, could be used to give us a flight simulator instead of a 1/2 assed flight sim with no content and some stupid tanks you can hop in and see how crappy the models are from a first person point of view. The money used to pay those people could be put towards people who will actually make the "FLIGHT" part of the game better.

We do not know the company's structure, the knowledge of the workers, the currently running processes and future plans. Who has time to do this, the project leaders decide, but i'm sure, he has a better reason than "there was no other work". :rolleyes:

swiss 02-24-2012 02:56 PM

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Originally Posted by ACE-OF-ACES (Post 393747)
And the money made selling the game to those RO2 and World of Tanks types can be used to hire more people who will actually make the "FLIGHT" part of the game better

At least one got it.
It's pointless to polish the flight sim to excellence if sales suck.
A pure flight sim will never hit a 7digit sales number(-anymore), no matter how perfect it is.

Zaltor 02-24-2012 02:56 PM

They should Fix the game so it works in for most people as the flight sim.

Then they can work on tank Crap. If you read B6 awnsers They dont know if its making this version or the sequal, nor do they know the important awnsers to simple questions.

They are not fxing CLOD there makng a new game sit back and wait a few years we aint geting nothing soon its been 5 months since last patch after all.

csThor 02-24-2012 02:56 PM

The reactions to this and the previous two updates shows how utterly difficult decent PR can be if it's being treated as secondary - as is obvious with the belated appointment of BlackSix and the rather limited amount of information he seems to get.

The problem as I see it is that Luthier has not much to show in the way of screenshots or videos which touch the core of what most people think ails the game (performance, FM, systemic bugs etc). You can't really show a video or make screenshots to document fixes or updates since most of these things can only be experienced in-game and are highly dependent on what kind of hardware the player has. And since he has nothing in that sector to show - and since he is not inclined to let the audience take a peek at the details by making them public or talking about them - Luthier does show something that he can. Only that it's not what a good number of people want to know about (myself included). I can understand the idea to "show something for the sake of showing" because otherwise he'd be accused of not providing enough information, but I am personally not sure rolling out this "feature" at this particular time was a wise move. Stuff like this most of us see as additional feature to be worked on and introduced when the rest is up to specs ... only that it's the rest that we want to see fixed and know about. ;)

kyletiernan 02-24-2012 02:57 PM

Very nice, looking forward to the new and improved engine!

OutlawBlues 02-24-2012 02:57 PM

While you're new improvements are real cool, you attempt to divert attention away from the important flight sim aspects is laugh-able. Christ, IL2 46 is a better FLIGHT SIM than the current state of this one. Make up you're friggin mind which direction this sim is moving and be done with it. And this BS about a BETA patch is exactly that. What better analysis can you get than from the people who love you're flight sim. :(

SiThSpAwN 02-24-2012 02:59 PM

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Originally Posted by VO101_Tom (Post 393753)
We do not know the company's structure, the knowledge of the workers, the currently running processes and future plans. Who has time to do this, the project leaders decide, but i'm sure, he has a better reason than "there was no other work". :rolleyes:

Well P-51 (for Eagle Dynamics) was created as a side project and they decided it was good enough to release, so basically it wasnt part of the development cycle and was added later, I am just saying it could be the same thing here. To assume this is taking away from current development is short sighted, we also have to consider they need to justify their exsistance to the people paying the bills, showing future possibilities makes that possible, the fact that they are sharing these early developments with us should be appreciated a little more... :rolleyes:

Tvrdi 02-24-2012 03:02 PM

Scene at 5:19 ahahahahah

and the title at the end "Coming soon". Should be "Coming soon, optimised, in 2030. Stay tuned!"

Really, if the peasant vehicles and tanks wouldnt drive them from fixing the sim and making new planes for BOM (no new planes for CLOD as we heard) - Im all for it. Why the hell not?. Anyway I would glidely man the Flak when Kiss a Bliss is near in a puppy plane.

ACE-OF-ACES 02-24-2012 03:03 PM

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Originally Posted by swiss (Post 393754)
It's pointless to polish the flight sim to excellence if sales suck. A pure flight sim will never hit a 7digit sales number(-anymore), no matter how perfect it is.

Sad but true..

It has been clear for some time.. Eversince EA anounced they were cancling the A10 project some 10+ years ago flight simmers had to come to grips with the fact that flight sim games are not the best selling games.. Clearly 1C knows this.. And knowing that they know they need to pull in some other paying customers so they can continue to do what they love.. flight sims

If that is what 1C is up to than I am all for it

If they think they can make ONE game for ALL.. That is to say make the groud vehicals as detailed and realistic as the aricraft.. Than my fear is they will fail like all those before them that tried this.. Because truth be told, when you try to be all things to all people.. What you end up with is something that does no one thing very well.. To put it short.. Jack of all trades master of none.


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