Did you give me a TL,DR and then go on to post a similar wall of text? lol. Just joking :).

You would not be treated any differently than a US citizen and you would have known that if you had read my post lol. We, citizens, are being treated like terrorists in the airports too. It's an ongoing debate, especially within the last few months. I myself have chosen to fly as little as possible since the most recent changes...my own little protest.

However, knowing what I do about security measures in other countries, there is no appreciable difference where security is concerned. We are just now catching up to what is going on elsewhere in the world on the security side. It's sad that it had to come to this.

BTW, there are plenty of places in the world I would not go to and a lot more that I would not live in given their current direction. So I understand what you are saying.

Splitter

moilami.

You and I know that this is a crazy question. Anyone who fly's online and is on teamspeak will find out who the good people are after a couple of months of constant flying. You get to know who's married what their families are like etc. so you can get a pretty good feeling weather you like this person or not. I've ran into some people I don't like but it really doesn't have anything to do with the Luftwaffe. It's usually extreme Republican types I don't get along with LOL

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And stop going off topic too.

Just one? I have one in my nightstand and the wife has one in hers. :) (This is one reason I don't cheat on my wife, btw.)

On topic:

People say IL-2 is just a game. Maybe it is to them. However, I try on occasion to put myself in the shoes of the men who flew these planes for real. It helps me feel a connection to the history.

History is not just about dates and names. It's about learning the lessons of history.

As an example, I had a strange kill the other day. With my last bit of ammo, I got a snap shot at an enemy plane I had been fighting in a rolling scissors. I knew I hit him, but it was a very short burst.

He went into a long, slow, descending left turn. I didn't know what his next move would be so I stayed above and behind. In short order, I became conviced that he was going down.

I know similar things happened to the real pilots and I got to thinking about what they would have been thinking in the same situation.

First, they probably started shaking from the adrenaline. Then they probably started hoping the other guy would get out (I have heard pilots talk about the first time they "saw" an enemy pilot die...before they viewed it as just shooting down planes).

When they realized the other guy wasn't going to bail, they probably started wondering if he was conscious or not. Were his flight controls and canopy jammed? Maybe he caught a stray bullet and was already dead or unconscious....they probably hoped for that because being aware through the whole descent would be a terrible way to die.

Then the surviving pilot, after seeing the foe crash into the sea, probably turned his plane toward home and filed his thoughts away until he could mull them over while having a pint.

I have to think that most pilots on all sides had some empathy for their foes. They all ran the very real risk of being trapped in a plane on its' way down or getting trapped in a burning cockpit. I think that's why "shooting someone up in their chute" was so uncommon.

Yeah, it's a game, but it is what you make of it. some people treat it like a game, others also see a connection with the past.

Splitter

:lol:

I have to say I always admire those republican vs democrats shootouts. Someday I am gonna read what are the differences between them. Have to admit I really don't know :shock:

And sorry for the OT.

I wasn't directing my post at you, don't worry. :) It was directed at Richie.

LOL

Well I think we're all friends here :)

Anyway I'm from Canada.

Or both, but you are on target there.


It's one of the reasons I fly in Il2.

Some games can be quiet serious, take military war games for example. Those games are used to develop strategy, teamwork and experience for the people involved.

Unfortunately due to my limited time I can't take it too seriously at the moment. I would not be able to commit the time for training and availability to join a serious squadron for example. Good luck to the people who can. It is one thing that I admire when I see a group of people cleaning up on a map because their using teamwork and skill to achieve their objectives.

Cheers!

It was badly written sentence by me, I meant police etc. with common people (which they are). But naturally common people should have very little power. Or do you want I can do body search for you girl just because I suspect she might be hiding some sort of terrorist attack plans under the dress :lol: Intriguing thought :lol: Anyway even thought I would not use that power I don't want it - just to be sure I don't abuse it.

If you give too much power for police etc., like power to arrest people at whim or power to do home/car searches at whim, they will abuse it. That is also when they have got too much power, hmm, even if they would not abuse it often.

Ok...now things have been stretched to the extreme. And a little bit of a ridiculous comment too. I dont think that anyone here was even suggesting that "bad people fly axis". It was my impression that we where talking about our personal feelings on the issue of flying Axis aeroplanes...


Lol...its kind of funny (to me) reading stuff like this, cuz things haven't really changed here that much. IN FACT, most of the "security changes" we have had here, have been mirrored in most of the 1st world. The UK, France, Germany, & Japan have all increased their "anti-terrorist" policies. They just call it something else their...

Too me...it sounds like you have been reading the "conspiracy theory"/ "Fringe political" blogs or something..."Guantanamo" aint filled with innocent tourists...rest assured.