Actually he is right this thread has went off topic and is about the title update. Sorry just posting forum rules.

you'd think they could just import some nice cockpits from the earlier pc versions of IL-2, as they undoubtedly already exist.

Targetware, a free user-created sim in beta, has great cockpits for its German planes. You have to control everything in the plane, too, fuel mixture, fuel tanks, wheel brakes, weapon selection, etc. And there's no HUD, so you actually HAVE to look at the cockpit instruments.

The thing I don't like about having to look at the instruments is that the only really practical way to do it is with TrackIR.. which is way too expensive. Else you'd be messing around with your hatswitch all the time, trying to center it, you'd probably need zoom, etc.

It's pretty easy with a controller.

I know a controller is not in the spirit of a flight sim but, consoles don't ship with a flight stick.

Stay tuned
 

Boys and girls,The question still to be answered..Will our fearless heroes wait another weekend before rescue.Will the evil lords of B.S save the dieing hero of internet pilots IL-2 .Or will they allow another weekend to go by, all the wile the evil lords of CODMW2 and forza3 steal the community.Will our heros act or stay in the bat cave.STAY TUNED .maybe next month same bat time same bat channel SAME BAT BS.

If you're placing so much emphasis on the patch, I think you're missing the point of the game and would probably be better off playing MW2 or something instead. Because that game is in no need of any patching whatsoever.

If you can't have fun with the game as is, then the patch isn't going to fix that for you.

DING DING DING! We have a winner!

Thats precisely the point, and in a nutshell.

Must admit the Patch moaning is getting soooooo tedious! Enjoy the game as is. Thankfully, lots of us do excatly that!

Well said, this game came out in great shape out of the box. Some tweaks would be nice in the MP, but not what you would consider a "patch" and hardly necessary to make it a great game.

lol no it bloody didn't, its half made, and BADLY coded, its broken, and is NOT great out of the box, hence the dwindling numbers, dont get me wrong its a good effort (sort of) but lets not kid ourselves. The only reason you think its great and you have everyone elses support, is because everyone else has left.

Now I've traded this disgusting half arsed attempt of a game, and I have no regrets, and I've already said why I stay around because of the good people myself and others have met here. But you guys are delusional, you are quite correct, the Patch will not fix a THING, because they have lied to you, there will be no cockpits as promised, and the GLARING flaws that everyone noticed the first afternoon of playing, will NOT be fixed.

SO lets not get all high and mighty playing the "No, because you think its crap and we don't, you're wrong, and because one person disagrees, we're the winners" you need to learn one thing, NO-ONE WINS, you lost hard earned cash to people who haven't earnt it, and those that bought it in high hopes lost out because we were lied to, and dealt a crap coaster.

And you accept that people who have made AMAZING PC versions, have made a simply appauling and disgraceful Console version. Don't hold them as heroes, hold them as ACCOUNTABLE!

How the HELL can you say this was perfect as is out the box?

Fly the P-51, fly the P-47, look at the range of motion of the gun turrets, look at the TERRIBLE net code, look at the dwindling numbers. I'm not saying GIVE UP, but what I am saying is, stop kidding yourselves that this is an amazing game that they can just give up on and say "meh, we''ve done enough"

I'm a VERY experienced Flight Simmer, I LOVE my flightsims, I LOVE IL-2 Series on the PC, But the xbox release was nothing short of an insult, and they let themselves down badly, partly by releasing a half finished game with no cockpits, which they arent even going to release as promised. but also they elt themselves down by hiring a simply AWEFUL publishing company.

Now you can flame and disagree if you wish, I'm not interested, but at least look at what you're typing, and playing, and be honest with yourselves.

I wanted this to be amazing, I waited a very long time eagerly watching this game, I thought it would hark back to my air warrior days, and was going to be amazing, and I, like a great many others have been sorely disappointed. We recognise that consoles are limited, e.g. we cant have 200 people in one match like you could on the PC, and we could ignore the pittiful room limits, BUT the glaring coding problems can't be ignored, and if you sit there typing your "It's amazing" BS, then you are ignoring very important problems. Because THIS game will get ignored, and the gamer's theyve insulted who paid £40 for an unfinished and unsupported game, will NOT buy a sequal if they even get to make one. And that is a great shame for all Simmers everywhere.

Because do you know how it will play out? People will say "That's why no-one creates sims for consoles, because the gamer's don't want them, Sims should stay on PC" but console gamers DO want them, we really, really do! but if you release an unfinished game, with no updates, and overpriced DLC that is also poor quality, then the gamers will be penalised for the publishers and developer's inabilities to do their jobs properly. And that goes for ALL Devs and Publishers, I'm not just singling out this game and it's team. Take Codemaster's abismal attempt at a very good and Classic Game, OpFlash1 was brilliant, it had its bugs and problems, but they did their best, but for the time it was great. But OpFlash2, is just aweful, and they've released 1 patch and given in to some of the communities requests, and that's a nice start, but the amount of problems with that game will never be able to be patched because they're too badly engrained in the coding. Not like IL-2 which COULD be fixed if they can be bothered.

But once again, low sales, and poor reviews, and people trading in the game, will lead people to say "Console gamers dont want sims" and that's not fair.

So yes people deserve to be berated for failing the gamers, because the gamers will suffer, NOT the companies.

Read all this / Don't read all this, Flame me / Don't flame me, Agree / disaggree, I don't care, WE WILL SUFFER because of people producing crap games, which SHOULD have been good.